Shaun? HelllOOOooo? Where'd you go? I thought your life's mission was to save my soul. See http://www.mcspotlight.org/debate/anything/messages/3870.html
You sure did give up easily. Are you sure you are committed to spreading the Good Word about Jesus? Maybe my last response to you was too long or not worded clearly enough. Perhaps you are short on time. Allow me to summarize my concerns, questions, and issues that your last post brought up:
1) You've stated several times that there is nothing I can do to be saved but you have also stated several times that there are things (or THING) I MUST do in order to be saved. SO......which is it? Are there things I CAN do to be saved, MUST do to be saved, or is there NOTHING at all I can do to be saved?
2) Are all Jews that have lived and died after the arrival of Christ now in eternal Hell?
3) Clearly there are languages that the Bible has not been translated into (as demonstrated by Nikhil and Floyd in our thread below).
http://www.mcspotlight.org/debate/anything/messages/3873.html
If you have to be born again to get into heaven, and you have to know Jesus to be born again, and you have to read the Bible to know Jesus, how are people that speak such languages supposed to get into heaven?
4) You've said that I have to be born again in order to know Jesus. You've also said that I have to know Jesus in order to be born again. Clearly this is a catch 22. How am I supposed to accomplish either assignment (getting born again or knowing Jesus) if both are prerequisites for the other?
5) You've stated that, in order to be saved and get into heaven, I have to confess to God in the form of Jesus. But you've also said that God is not currently IN the form of Jesus, so how am I supposed to make my confession? More importantly, how did YOU make YOUR confession. Did God make a special private appearance to you in the physical form of Jesus so that you could make your confession? How did you invoke such an appearance? Was there something you did to get this special attention?
6) Are you (Shaun) "born again" OR are you a "worldy sinner"? Ealier you made distinction between these two things that made it impossible for you to be both. Yet you have claimed to be born again AND have also claimed to have sinned since being born again (in fact you said that it was impossible NOT to sin even after being born again). So which is it? Maybe you are a sinner but not a "worldly sinner"? Are you then an "etheric sinner" or perhaps a "heavenly sinner"? Please explain.
7) What constitutes a "sinful lifestyle"? How often can I sin (and to what degree) without being seen by God as living a "sinful lifestyle"?
8) You've stated that the Bible is "crystal clear" (particularly on matters of salvation). But you have also stated that one must sometimes read it over again or ask someone for help in understanding it. Do you really believe it is fair to refer to a text as being "crystal clear" that has to be reread (perhaps many times) or that one must seek outside consultation on in order to understand? If so, how would you classify the instructions on a can of soda ("Pull Tab") or the on a traffic sign ("Left Lane Merges"). Would you refer to these instructions as "crystal clear"? Why? Do you have to reread them or ask for help in order to understand them? No? Then shouldn't we refer to these instructions as being "extra super duper crystal clear"?
