In Reply to: McD for workers? Tell me another one! (complete message- repost) posted by Siamak on May 16, 1996 at 12:28:31:
: My previous message got truncated on its way to the debating room. Hence the repost.: -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
: : : : Lucky old you, a school cleaner is paid 1:60/hr, a security guard 1:20/hr
: : : : and a garage forecourt attendant doing night shift a whopping
: : : : great 2:10/hr. Average wage of a counter assistant in the retail
: : : : sector is around 2:80 to 3:50/hr: : :
: : : So let's all be happy with our lot in life because there is always someone
: : : out there who is worse off than we are!: : No let's not all be happy with our lot in life, let's recognise that
: : there are a whole bunch of people much worse off than a company who
: : pays an average wage for that sector and work towards improving their
: : lot.: McD? working towards improving their workers lot? Who are you trying to kid?
Try to improve your reading interpretation skills, I'm referring to
YOU lot trying to improve that of people working for McDs, rather
than getting them all thrown out of a job.[Soap box posturing about how nothing could be as bad as working
in McDs]: If McD was seriously concerned about the welfare of their workers, then they would
: allow unionisation of their staff. Banning union avtivities within their stores does
: not exactly help improve their workers' lot does it?And of course McDonalds are the only company that has a
non-union policy? Yes? NO??? Gosh! Tell me, what makes you
think that unionising a place of work will achieve anything?
How many UK companies do not allow trade unions? I'll give
you a couple and you can add the 10s of thousands of others, OK?
IBM
Motorola - who sacked 900 workers on Xmas eve with no notice
...Unions are NOT the panacea for poor working conditions, plenty
of those working in the bleaching and dying industry will testify
to that. Oh yes, now there's a job!: Now, we both agree that McD workers are poorly paid. The difference is in our approach
: to the matter.No. I'm saying that McDs workers are paid no worse than anyone
else in the retail sector, nor are their working conditions
particularly bad on a global scale of jobs. Unlike you, I can
see further than McDs, you appear to be blinkered to all else
outside you restricted view.While I think McD makes millions of £s of profits every year through
: exploitation of their employees and that these employees have every right to fight
: for a share of this profit in the form of highr wages and better conditions of work,
: your pro-McD stance preaches total submission to employer under the pretext that
: things could be worse.Bah! If your concern was 'workers conditions' you'd be out there
campaigning for school cleaners and the like instead of wasting
your time chasing a burger company. Your concern is disingenuous.: : So what? So do the miners, so do the women that have to stick their arms round
: : toilet U-bends to unblock them. You think working for McDs is bad?
: : Believe me, you don't know the half of it.: And I suppose you do.
Yes I do - having done a few of them myself.
: By the way, I have seen many McD crew members (and not only
: women either) who had to "stick their arms round toilet U-bends to unblock them"
: since it would have worked out more expensive to call in a specialist company to do the job!So what? Tell that to the nursing assistants who work in a
local mental hospital for £2:80/hour and regularly have to
clean excrement and vomit off of violent patients and their beds.
As I said, you don't know the half of it. Oh! and mental
health service is unionised.