: There is no double standard going on here. Plants do not feel pain nearly as acutely as animals do (if indeed they feel pain at all). When confronted by people who ask me, "But what about plants?!" I have to wonder at their ulterior motives. Frankly, I don't think they care about animals OR plants; they're just trying to cobble up what they believe is a clever argument, when really, it's just a transparent means of avoiding stating the obvious. YOU know that animals feel pain and can suffer. You, Lark, are well aware that you don't really think plants suffer, or that if they do, it's anything like higher animals. What are you trying to do here, except justify cruelty to animals?How do you know plants dont suffer? they are a living thing I presume that having that status they experience life and death, plus any suffering inbetween, in the same way.
I dont appreciate people telling me what I think, I'm perfectly aware what I think, I do enjoy meat and I find factory farming etc. cruel, what I'm trying to do is inject some rationalism into this debate not this oh the poor animals nonsense.
: If you're still not convinced, I invite you to go to Farm Sanctary or even a petting zoo where they have cows and pigs. Spend time with those animals. Get to know them as individuals. Then take a knife and look at them and the weeds growing at their feet. Which one could you kill?
What is this? The use of animals for entertainment in a peting zoo or as pets or whatever is at least as terrible as their exploitation for food, if not worse at times.
: You're attempting to justify the unnecessary killing of animals when plant alternatives are available. Moreover, you're doing so in an era of intensive factory farming, a practice only 50 years old, and so cruel and despicable that it is hard to imagine anyone honestly saying they are not ashamed that people do such a thing to animals. I do believe that one day factory farming will be seen as the nightmare it is and abolished, and that people will look back and wonder how we let it happen. When you buy meat, Lark, you support this heinous system.
: So don't continue to post ridiculous queries about the suffering of plants versus the suffering of animals. Face up to reality and really think about the monstrous system you are for some reason attempting to defend.
I'm defending nothing I'm exposing flaws in your argument, which it would appear is nothing more than a demonisation of people who disagree.
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McSpotlight: So, Lark, what about the issues I raised as a footnote to your earlier post?
