: How do you know plants dont suffer? they are a living thing I presume that having that status they experience life and death, plus any suffering inbetween, in the same way.
This has got to be one of the most ridiculous questions that Ive ever heard. You might as well ask "How do you know cows dont fly?". Any reasonably intellegent person cannot possibly believe that a blade of grass,an eggplant, etc.. have any capacity whatsoever to feel physical pain or have any cognitive ability to comprehend pain or any other circumstance it may be subjected to. How dare you "presume" that just because a simple organism like a plant experiences life and death that it also experiences anything remotely close to what a mammal experiences during that life. Were you reared on this planet or some bizarro world?
: I dont appreciate people telling me what I think, I'm perfectly aware what I think, I do enjoy meat and I find factory farming etc. cruel, what I'm trying to do is inject some rationalism into this debate not this oh the poor animals nonsense.
Well your attempt at trying has failed; youre ideas are totally irrational- or at least completely illogical.
: : If you're still not convinced, I invite you to go to Farm Sanctary or even a petting zoo where they have cows and pigs. Spend time with those animals. Get to know them as individuals. Then take a knife and look at them and the weeds growing at their feet. Which one could you kill?
: What is this? The use of animals for entertainment in a peting zoo or as pets or whatever is at least as terrible as their exploitation for food, if not worse at times.
His point wasnt to advocate petting zoo's- he was trying to get you to see the difference between plant life and living animal's, which have a personality, a brain, and the ability to understand fear and pain- unlike weeds (although that is evidently beyond your ability to comprehend). Interesting how you purposely skip over his point (because you realize there is no logical retort to it) and move on to an off topic issue.
: : You're attempting to justify the unnecessary killing of animals when plant alternatives are available. Moreover, you're doing so in an era of intensive factory farming, a practice only 50 years old, and so cruel and despicable that it is hard to imagine anyone honestly saying they are not ashamed that people do such a thing to animals. I do believe that one day factory farming will be seen as the nightmare it is and abolished, and that people will look back and wonder how we let it happen. When you buy meat, Lark, you support this heinous system.
: : So don't continue to post ridiculous queries about the suffering of plants versus the suffering of animals. Face up to reality and really think about the monstrous system you are for some reason attempting to defend.
: I'm defending nothing I'm exposing flaws in your argument, which it would appear is nothing more than a demonisation of people who disagree.
I may have missed the "flaws" in his argument. What were they?
