[snip]: : But they don't. I've never met anyone, (heterosexual or homosexual) who 'centred everything in their life around sex'. It's a major drive, but it doesn't feed or clothe you...
: Well all I can say is that in the university all the gays I've seen you would no instantly are gays because they subscribe to every stereotype in the book.
Well, yeah, Lark, this is what I was trying to say before. The people that you recognize as gay are the people who exhibit the stereotypical behaviors. You are recognizing them as gay as a result of their conformity to your preconceived stereotypes, rather than as a result of their sexual activity. Not all gays fit the stereotypes. When you say "all the gays I've seen...subscribe to every stereotype in the book," what you're really saying is "everyone who fits all the stereotypes fits all the stereotypes," since you are not recognizing any person who does not fit the stereotypes as being gay. See the problem? If you only know someone is gay because they fit the stereotype, then you will classify anyone who doesn't fit the stereotype as straight by default, regardless of what they do when they're at home, and it will appear to you that all gays fit the stereotypes. Once again, there's a recognition issue here that needs to be addressed.
:It would appear sex is everything to them, perhaps in ways I'm the same, if you have a cause you have to be careful not to make it a sore thumbs issue that is going to cause serious aggorvation.
: Incidentally are there any heterosexual societies organising anyway?
My mother's church has retreats for married couples. I'd say the US republican party is (with a few exceptions) pretty damned close to a het's only society. The southern Baptist convocation definitely is, and vocally so.
: : And this is where you differ from Floyd, Barry, NJ and myself; you perceive the balance as tilted towards gays where we see it tilted the other way.
: No they are definitely oppressed but I would appreciate more social rules of engagement, I know that's not always possible but would you want an advocate of black power to adopt an all whites are evil approach?
It was very effective for the Panthers and Malcolm X.
: : :
: : As I said, primates are generally bisexual; pygmy chimpanzees especially so; however, same-sex/different-sex responses can be 'switched off' by environment and upbringing.
: I disagree there mate.
OK, on what grounds? The primate data is unequivocal. I'll provide you with ample references if you're interested.
[snip] More later, must dash.
-Floyd
