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: : : And this is where you differ from Floyd, Barry, NJ and myself; you perceive the balance as tilted towards gays where we see it tilted the other way.: : No they are definitely oppressed but I would appreciate more social rules of engagement, I know that's not always possible but would you want an advocate of black power to adopt an all whites are evil approach?
: It was very effective for the Panthers and Malcolm X.
First of all Floyd, while I don't fully agree with Lark on the factual question of whetehr most gays act that way, I do understand it when people object to public sexual displays. I kind of agree with Lark on the point that promiscuious and sex-obsessed lifestyles are not something desirable. I only disagree with him on the factual point of whetehr this is typical of homosexuals.
Secondly, you're wrong about the Panthers. First of all, nothing these guys did was that effective,m except maybe for breaking Timothy Leary out of priosn and setting up some free clinics, etc. They were repressed by the Feds with a vengeance. Second of all the Panthers broke from other black militant organizations over precisely the issue of whether whites were evil. The Panthers did not believe that all whites were evil; they didn't believe in racial essentialism in ANY form. They believed in divisions based on CLASS and IDEOLOGY, not on RACE. This was the reason they purged their Information Minister, Eldridge Cleaver, who believed that the primary distinction was based on race. As a simplification, Cleaver belived that the Panthers should unite with other black groups, whether they be right or left wing. The Panthers ridiculed this idea, and rightfully so, saying that any alliance with Papa Doc Duvalier or black conservatoives in America would be seuicidal. They instead advocated unity with all other progressives, be they white or black. This was why the Panthers built a coalition with predominnatly white socialists like the Peace and Freedom party, running joint presidential candidates, and also supported non-black progressive revolutionaries everywhere from Algeria to Vietnam. The Panthers were Marxist socialists, not racial essentialists. There is all the difference in the world. One leads to humanitarian brotehrhood, the other to Nazism. As for Malcolm X, he was indubitably a brilliant man, and an amazing orator, but a false prophet nonetheless.
