Kathy: how many wars have you been in? DDN: None. Tonya wasn't talking about me specifically. She was addressing men in general. Last time I checked, wars were predominantly fought by men, correct?
Kathy: …how many heads have you blown off?
DDN: The correct question would be: How many of my heads have been blown off. The correct response would be ONE.
Kathy: …..when was the last time in history that men built thier own homes? wasn't that like the 1800's?
DDN: Excuse me, but when you see a bunch of people building a house, are they usually women or men? Men build pretty much everything, they do most of it for women, and they risk life and limb doing it.
Kathy: ….for the record, i probably know just as much about cars as the better half of the guys i know and i can't even start to count the ways that i've proved to be a better handy woman around the house than any man .
DDN: Then you shouldn't have any problem learning how to defend yourself against physical and sexual assualts from men. Why don't you and Tonya go take some karate lessons then you won't need men for that either.
Kathy: ….i dont know what to say about you, i just have to figure that you surround yourself with needy helpless women.
DDN: No. My problem has primarily been that I am needy and helpless in relationships and women have hated me to no end for that. I've gotten much better responses from them by treating them like complete shit. Maybe you can explain to everyone here why it is that every male I've ever queried has had a simular experience.
Kathy: …..you don't know what it means to be able to handle responsibility unless you've lived completely on your own for a few years as a woman in a mans world…..
DDN: Really? A minute ago it was no sweat for you: "I know all about cars, fixing things around the house, I'm better at this, that, and the other thing." Why is living on your own so difficult if you are so adept at the skills that are required to do so? If you are more skilled than the men you know in these areas then how would adding a man to your life make these tasks easier? What is it that makes "living on your own in a man's world" so difficult if you don't need a man?
Kathy: ….i grately resented that comment you made, as there is nothing life has thrown at me thus far that i couldn't handle.
DDN: Fine. You're exactly the same as man then. Congratulations. How sexy. So you shouldn't have any problem getting what you want out of this world without our help including physical security, sexual security, getting treated fairly by mechanics, etc. What grounds does Tonya have to complain if all she needs to do is become a man like you in order to get what she wants?
Kathy: …..youre just a complete idiot if you think a woman cant handle the same responsiblity as you.
DDN: Its not a matter of CAN or CAN'T. It's a matter of SHOULD or SHOULDN'T. I don't want a woman that doesn't NEED me for anything. Where's the security in that? Go ahead and take over the whole damn world if you want to; I just don't see how this will lesson the animosity that currently exists between men and women.
Modern feminist movements create just as much derision between the sexes as has any male cheuvenist sexism proceeding them. There has to be a way for ALL of us to find happiness without hating each other just for being male or female, without women having to become men, without men having to become women, without any of us having to become less of who we really are. Dare I suggest that a solution to our man/woman issues might come through us becoming MORE of who we really are: Men and Women; Through identifying, respecting and honoring the things that make us different instead of trying to annihilate them in a firestorm of feminist revenge.
