: I'm not as "bad" as your letting on RD, I am doubtlessly more conservative in my value of certain things than yourself but it's really a difference of opinion.I'm not putting any words in your mouth, man, I'm just asking/posing questions regarding your own statements, the questions I posed stand for other people on this board who have failed signally to address them...
: A)What I've been saying all along is that it is a lifestyle choice, I know you dispute this but apart from arguments about the animal kingdom which is very, very different from humanity, thankfully, and free will arguments (which are fine because they're all about CHOICE, CHOOSING a particular lifestyle) I've seen nothing to prove that it is a natural state.
I haven't disagreeed with you, I don't care if it is a natural state or not, I don't give a bugger, quite honestly, I think that whole debate is an utter red herring- basically, my simple point is this, if we can do it, its natural, and yes, that includes atom bombs.
: I mean I'm heterosexual, I've never had a homosexual thought and this seems to be a living contradiction for some people here. Plus I've got relations and in their family out of four or five children one was homosexual the rest heterosexual, without ever having a homosexual thought, the parents where obviously heterosexual, so where did nature intercede to make one a homosexual?
Who knows? Who cares? It happened.
: B)Lifestyle choices so long as they are CHOICES are fine. I cant recall ever hearing of a peadaphile who didnt insist that the child consented, in Holland, where ultra libertarian speech laws exist, peadaphiles have published puesdo-manifestos on the ability of children to make choices.
Yes, and we usually deny that argument, on the grounds that pre-pubescent children cannot make such a choice, its always rape, it cannot be consensual.
: I wouldnt say peadaphilia is intrinsically linked to child molesting but societies judgementality, what you are railing against, is what makes child molesting unacceptable.
No, what makes child molesting unacceptable, is that it is inherently abusive, a child cannot consent, in any meaningful manner.
: C) My arguments about what you consider to be marginalisation etc. are perfectly valid, be careful how you choose your words friend because I'm not all comfortable with association between my rejection of these matters and the right wings same rejection.
I'm not looking at causes, merely effects, the results are the same, you may not want to see them beaten up, and would never advocate doing so, but you do advocate a certain pressure that is itself unpleasant to say the least.
: Before homosexuality became accepted and queer bars and nightclubs sprang up everywhere I could understand why they where forcing themselves into the spotlight and shaging in hedges in Clapham common but surely they have no excuse now!!
No, they are still marginalised, although, plenty of heterosexual prostiutes hang out in similar locations in other cities.
: For instance the group known as "Outrage" has caused riots and the storming of church podiums in the past, which is more likely to alienate sympathy as anything else.
When did outrage organize a riot? And climbing onto church podiums is hardly a mortal sin, it was qwuite popular over here during....teh revolut....oh, yeah...
: P.S. In a recent edition of Eastenders a homosexual caracture asked did everything have to be about sex, that it was a minor (ish) part of his life and not what he was about, it's a pity this doesnt reflect the reality of these camp attention seekers.
Actually you'll find that they don't want to have their sexuality being the sighnificant fact about their lives, however, society treats them as such, if a gay character turns up in a film, its immediately seen as having homosexuality as a theme, teh day when a gay characetr can pass without comment, without homosexuality being a plot-point per se, will be a major step forward for society.
: P.P.S You culture is based on religious fundamentalism and hatred.
Really?
