Karen: NORMAL???????? Come on! The differences of the billions of people on this planet make it rather self-righteous for any individual to spout what THEY term as normal. It is a completely subjective term.DADDIO: What’s subjective about the observational fact that a penis is designed for peeing and procreation and an anus is designed for expelling fecal matter? If these are subjective judgements then there’s so such thing as objectivism.
What would YOU have us use as our objective criteria for measuring the morality or immorality of homosexual activities or the normalcy or abnormality of homosexual impulses? What everyone else is doing? I didn’t escape the third grade before learning that the number of people engaged in an activity does not necessarily have any bearing on how acceptable the activity is. I didn’t arrive at adulthood before learning that not one soul escapes the cycle of making mistakes, paying for them, learning or not learning from them, then making mistakes again. Approaching my mid thirties, its abundantly clear that the level and intensity of aberrant environmental elements in the average person’s life makes it exceedingly difficult to move through this cycle in an evolutionary manner. The end result is that there are lots of sick people doing lots of sick shit. A foundation for objectivity? I think not. A convenient way for new sick shit to look acceptable? Definitely.
Karen: ….Every person has their own set of circumstances in life and when backed into a corner you either sit there and cower or you come out fighting in blazing rainbow colors, sequins and all if that corner is created of your homosexuality.
DADDIO: Ok, let’s break this down:
1) Stuart: Push all of your feelings deep down inside and smash them over the head with an archaic Hebrew history book when they try to get out.
2) Karen: Accept the the deepest, sickest parts of yourself as completely natural and in no need of improvement then fling yourself carelessly into the environment and berate offended parties for being self-righteous.
3) Wiser people: Let unconditional self love give you the strength and courage to
honestly assess your entire being (thoughts, feelings, actions, paradigms) thereby
hastening the death of the impurities and imperfections that cause suffering. Better?
Karen: There are as many interpretations of the bible as there are readers of it,
DADDIO: Actually, I think there’s even more than THAT. Example: I read it twice. The first time I interpreted it as being convoluted piece of shit posing as a spiritual text. The second time I interpreted it as a history of bloodthirsty alien intervention posing as a spiritual text. God only knows what response a third reading would yield. I’d probably start wearing ladies underwear and shooting at people from towers.
Karen: …..and any one can find a verse to use to back their particular point for instance- Judge not...
DADDIO: Since you brought it up, let me clarify something for those who are fond of hurtling this biblical passage at bible thumpers expecting it to stop them dead in their tracks. To paraphrase:
Judge not unless you are prepared to be judged…….Remove the plank from YOUR eye and then you can point out the splinter in another’s eye.
Clearly, to say that this is an instruction to completely refrain from judging others is a gross distortion. It serves more as an instruction on HOW to judge others. According to this verse and the Bible’s general appeal to us to become pure, I am to perform the following duties in the following order:
1) Take no offense to my very tidy neighbor noting how messy my back yard is.
2) Clean up my back yard.
3) Peer over the fence and suggest to my not so tidy other neighbor that he should clean up HIS backyard.
This could also be interpreted as:
1) Take guidance from those that have more knowledge than you
2) Give guidance to those who have less
Pretty basic point, really. So basic, in fact, it’s somewhat insulting. This is one of the big problems with this book: On the rare occasion that it makes some tangible, relevant point, its so blitheringly simplistic and general that one must wonder what kind of sorry ass people it must have been written for.
Stuart, not being a homosexual himself (or being a damn good actor) and probably having read Leviticus 20:13 (I believe this is the hot-button verse on homosexuality) has every BIBLICAL right to judge the living crap out of anything that’s gay and breaths air.
What I wish folks like Stuart would pick up on is that one does not need the Bible to behave ethically or to possess and dispense morals. Your own being is already armed with such amenities and the skills to acquire more of them from many different sources. I suppose if you are morally bankrupt or you spent your last lifetime as a patch of moss, then the Bible could be of some assistance: "Don’t kill people", "Don’t lie, cheat, and steal", "Don’t have affairs with your friends’ wives". What it can deliver beyond that should not be a substitute for a persons own innate ability to discern from right and wrong or to measure the normalcy of homosexual acts. Anatomy 101 can handle the latter.
