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     1        exonerate McDonald's of any kind of misconduct in the sale
     2        of beef, despite the fact that there had been a suspicion
     3        (and may be still is, I know not) that some animals were
     4        infected with BSE and, in addition, of course, that that
     5        condition is transmissable to human beings.
     6
     7        My Lord, if the case were to be made, or sought to be made,
     8        that McDonald's had in relation to this question of BSE
     9        been in any sense negligent or reckless, worse still
    10        reckless or, worst still, dishonest as, for example, the
    11        pamphlet alleges in relation to the question of diet and
    12        heart disease and cancer, then that case would have to be
    13        made distinctly.
    14
    15        As I read Dr. Dealer, what he is saying is, well, he thinks
    16        this was the position but McDonald's were not under any
    17        obligation to do any more than they did; even if they had
    18        sought medical advice independent of what MAFF was doing
    19        and saying at the time, the likelihood is they would not
    20        have found anybody because there were very few people --
    21        I am quoting -- "very few people working on risks and
    22        epidemiology in the UK outside MAFF and the Tyrell
    23        Committee".
    24
    25        My Lord, if a man by misfortune should sell a bottle of
    26        wine or a hamburger which is not as good as it might be and
    27        the customer suffers in consequence, but no fault or blame
    28        can be attributed to the businessman on that account, then
    29        a statement to the effect that the goods were or might have
    30        been unsatisfactory in some way is not the justification of
    31        a defamatory libel.
    32
    33        My Lord, if it is not, then we would urge your Lordship
    34        (and I am repeating myself and I do apologise) not to allow
    35        this court be used as a forum for that interesting debate
    36        which Dr. Dealer has addressed in his report.  If your
    37        Lordship does not accept my submission, then I would ask at
    38        least this, that the Defendants be compelled on this
    39        occasion to state precisely and in writing what their case
    40        is on this question, partly so that I can get the evidence
    41        that I need to deal with it, but partly also so that it
    42        shall be known before Mr. Walker gives evidence what it is
    43        that they are saying and that he might be expected to deal
    44        with.
    45
    46   MS. STEEL:   I have not prepared for this because we have
    47        been  -----
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You can either argue it now and I will make a
    50        ruling or you can say that you want time to prepare in 
    51        relation to it.  If you do want time, then you should 
    52        during the time you are given set out a draft amendment to 
    53        your plea of justification and fair comment to set out what
    54        the allegation is or what you are seeking to justify in
    55        relation to McDonald's, because whatever may have been said
    56        in the past about not having to amend your Defence in
    57        respect of allegations which have been made in witness
    58        statements, it is my view that in relation to a specific
    59        matter such as this you should set out what your case is.
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