: SHAUN: All you really did was state your opinions but I'd be very interested in knowing why you feel that way. I do believe that the public school system is not as good as it used to be but for the most part I think public education is working well.
: DADDIO: Fair enough. But why do you think so? What are you measuring it against?
Pretty much measuring it up against how the schools used to be, back in the days when parents were active in thier kids lives and taught them right from wrong
: SHAUN: I believe that most, if not all, the problems with public schools are caused by parents.
: DADDIO: I agree with you to the following extent:
: 1) Most parents are themselves products of the public school system and therefore tend to be somewhat dysfunctional and consequently often make lousy parents.
: 2) Because they are products of the public school system, they are plenty dumb enough to subject their poor kids to the same system, thus propegating the existence of the system with all of its inate problems.
Although we agree that it's usually parents to blame, I don't blame public schools for how the parents are. Public schools have been around since who knows how long, even before the USA was a country. The thing is that for the longest time, teachers and schools gave kids a good, moral education. It was like that for the longest time, so public schools were working fine. But then I guess the 60's came about and all of a sudden it was against the law pray and talk about God in schools. They ignored the Bibles teachings and pretty much got God out of the schools.(The supreme court case in 1962 are you aware of that?) The result of taking God out of the classroom in the early 60's? The late sixties saw the biggest morality decline in the history of this country. Drug use, violence (especially race related)and crime skyrocketed. It is the children of those people of the late 60's who have fewer morals and take no part in thier kids life, and therefore thier kids are growing up the same way.
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: SHAUN: For instance, the only reason, I believe, that violence and drugs are so rampant in our schools is because parents are not raising thier children right anymore.
: DADDIO: Not raising them RIGHT? Their not really raising them AT ALL, are they? Aren’t their kids in school all day for most of the year? Seems to me like the schools are the ones doing most of the "raising".
But schools have been around for thousands of years, and it's only within the past few years that it's been a problem.
: SHAUN: And then they go and blame the school or the government when thier kid fails school or whatever.
: DADDIO: BINGO! You understand everything I’m saying! Great!
But it's not the schools fault, its the parents.
: DADDIO: The public school MUST share SOME of the blame for broken families, especially in places where home school is not available, unaffordable, or unacredited and where attendance at an acredited school is mandatory (which I believe is EVERYWHERE). What else is a parent in such a situation supposed to do? Attend school with the child? Keep their kid at home and go to jail for their kids truancy?
Well really, you cant blame the school or the government for divorce. Sometimes divoce is justified, but usually people get divorced because the people were never in love to begin with. So many people get married so soon before they fall in love and it turns out they don't love each other, or they only got married in the first place because they were pregnant. I'm not preaching against that (even though it is wrong) but I'm just pointing out that that is the main reason why people get divorced.
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: SHAUN: ….or growing up in a household where they were abused, never taught responsibility and so on. The fault lies with the parents.
: DADDIO: The parents? You mean the public school graduates that are trying to immitate parents.
I would say that in spite of what we see on the news and in the papers,the vast majority (99%)of the parents in the world are good loving parents, and most of them I'm sure, went to public school
: SHAUN: 9 times out of 10 when somebody really screws up thier life and ends up on drugs or in jail, it's because the parents weren't really good parents at all.
: DADDIO: Right again. And their first mistake was sending their kids to a public school. I’m glad we’re seeing eye to eye on this.
Well, I went to public school my whole life and I turned out OK. In fact, growing up, I only had one friend who went to a private school (Catholic school) and he was no different than the public school people I knew. I went to public school and I loved it. And so will my kids
