- Capitalism and Alternatives -

Never mind, Nergle will expropriate it anyhow...

Posted by: Red Deathy ( Socialist Party, UK ) on February 25, 1999 at 11:35:13:

In Reply to: but I bought the dustpan and brush! posted by Gee on February 24, 1999 at 15:20:49:

: which wouldnt exist without the initial expansion. if companies were magically kept at the non-expansion level (so as to avoid cycles) then those jobs would not be gained in the first place, and thus would not be lost

Which only exist because of capitalist exploitation, and the employement cycle occurs because of the way of treating people as things, as commodities, who can work themselves out of a job...

: Nothing, except themselves becoming less poor. Who owes it to whom?

Everyone in society to everyone else...

: What stopped it in most employers was competition for employees. Controls are the political equivalent of 'goal hanging' in football.

But competition for employees produced teh most appalling conditions in Laissez Faire England...

: Or go to a private doctor, body for advice. You do when you have a car fixed - likewise a Dr. The Drs interest is in best advice, bad advide = bad repuation - quick exit.

Which means piling on the costs, many of which poor folk could not afford...

: The media, if so controlled, is freakishly anti-business though. I dont recall the last time I saw a tabloid without reference to 'fat cats', 'greedy businessman...' etc.

Thats the public sentiment, they have to sell the papers...

: So indeed, the state created the monsters deliberatley by refusing to seperate economics from state, as supposedly was done with religiona nd state.

Or rather capital created those monsters, and they forced themselves on the state....

: In each case I can think of several legislations designed to prevent such - none appear to work very well. because of incompetent enforcement? Or perhaps because its wrong in principle.

Because such legislation runs against the functioning of capitalism- workers would be at the mercy of their dominant industry, with capitalists like fuedal barons. Competition between employers does not guarantee safe working practise...

: Competition between currencies....interesting.

Couldn't work.

: Self levelling in a free market.

Creates wars.

Capitalism is anti-social...



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