: By what philosophical standard? Otherwise its just an opinion.By the practicality that we all share the same environment and world, I am in continuous virus to virus contact with teh people inmy community, chances are, you've contracte the descendants of viruses that have passed through me- we breath the same air- I ahve just inhaled molecules that have been round you blood stream, that have touched your flesh in the most intimate places, I have eaten your recycled carbon. to say we are unique, isolated, autnomous beings with no relation to our fellows is arrogant nonsense.
: Appaling conditions, England is laissez faire??? hardly
WAS Laissex Faire, please recall, it was invented here, up until about 1860 I'd say, and then social reformers started to kick up a stink.
: so they are anti wealth creation? its certainly the easy target.
No, they're anti-bosses, anti conspicous wealth amidst the poverty of the wealth creators- the workers.
: The state was never a benevolent thing prior to large scale capitalisation.
No, but it served a different class then, like an unwilling lover it had to be forced into the despicable hands of the capitalists...