: C'mon Stuart, do you really believe you need to shed blood to understand yourself? What does it teach you: that you're capable of taking a life? Some lesson.That's a good point a mate of mine, now he was a little weird right enough and we fell out after a violent fist fight upon his joining of a British nazi group, insisted on snaring a rabbit once, now I've snared before because it stops the foxes going to live in the fields around my house and means my brothers pet rabbits are safe.
Now john was the man until he actually caught something, it was a little small rabbit and he actaully felt really guilty (I didnt because it had miximitosis and was going to die anyway), although I dont think that was the kind of lesson Stuart had in mind.
:How about refraining from taking a life? That will teach you far more than shedding blood for some amorphous link to your inner savage.
True.
: Concern for others is also a positive value, and that concern ought to include the willingness to make a sacrifice for the greater good.
I'd just put in that Stuart didnt realise that my interest in survivalism is rooted in a will for cheap eco-living and communitarianism which are kind of independent of his dependency on food corp. values.
:How many Americans have to die by handgun for you and other conservatives to sacrifice your right to have a handgun? Is your right to carry a small lethal weapon worth more than the tens of thousands of lives taken by these evil things?
Good question.
: I don't see the European countries which have strict gun control falling into tyranny; what I do see is that they have far, far fewer handgun deaths, and their streets and homes are safer. Do you think in Europe people express their road rage by taking their guns and shooting others?
Good point but then their are nations like Switzerland that combine brilliant social and community sentiments with a smart welfare system and freedom to own assault rifles and they have remarkably little deaths.
Possessive individualism, anti-social sentiments and capitalist ideology are as much to blame for the deaths as the weapons.
:Remember, Stuart, responsible gun owners are not criminals -- until they shoot someone in rage or recklessness, that is.
Good point.
: "Infinity's Shore," by David Brin.
Is it any good?
