Day 273 - 03 Jul 96 - Page 08

     
     1        A.   The only ends that people in London Greenpeace, I
     2        would say, were shared by all of the people were that they
     3        were against the exploitation of human beings, animals and
     4        nature, the environment.  Now, as to what means people
     5        chose to do, it was left up to them, and not everyone in
     6        the group participated in the anti-McDonald's campaign.
     7
     8   Q.   You were a loner, were you, in your hostility towards
     9        McDonald's?
    10        A.   I have never said that I was a loner in my hostility.
    11        All I have said was that I run the campaign.  There was
    12        some people in the group enthusiastic about it.  There were
    13        others who were not.  Mr. Morris was not.  Dave was not.
    14
    15   Q.   You confirmed this yesterday.  Mr. Morris's position was
    16        that it was rather bad luck on McDonald's, they were the
    17        targets simply because they were symbolic of everything
    18        that he detested and despised.  That is right, is it not?
    19        We saw that in one of the agent's notes yesterday?
    20        A.   I do not remember those words.
    21
    22   Q.   No, no, I am paraphrasing.
    23
    24   MR. MORRIS:  Can I just say that I do not object to Mr. Rampton
    25        asking questions which he himself said he would object to
    26        when we asked them, which was asking a witness about other
    27        people's motivation who are quite capable of speaking for
    28        themselves, but I am not actually formally objecting
    29        because I think the witness can deal with it anyway.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, Mr. Rampton is perfectly entitled to ask
    32        the witness, suggest to the witness that your motivation
    33        was this or that.  The witness can agree, disagree or say
    34        he does not know.
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:  It is just that Mr. Rampton --
    37
    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   He is perfectly entitled to ask the
    39        question.
    40
    MR. MORRIS:  When I asked, I think it was, Allan Claire about
    42        our motivation about something, it was ruled out of order.
    43        I do not really mind.
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The situation is that Mr. Gravett has written
    46        a number of documents which give a key to his motivation,
    47        on the face of them give a key to London Greenpeace's
    48        motivation, and therefore it seems but a short step and a
    49        perfectly legitimate one to ask whether that would include
    50        your motivation.  I cannot see anything wrong with that
    51        question at all.  It is entirely up to Mr. Gravett what
    52        answer he gives to the question, but the question is a
    53        legitimate one.
    54
    55   MR. RAMPTON:  Now, can we look, Mr. Gravett, please, at the
    56        fourth paragraph which begins:
    57
    58        "We are aware since our fact sheet was first published
    59        some four years ago".
    60