Day 168 - 03 Oct 95 - Page 16

     
     1        false impression, that the fact of a complaint proves
     2        anything relevant to the truth or otherwise of this
     3        leaflet.
     4
     5   MR. MORRIS:  Right.  We will hold our fire on calling for the
     6        witness until we see the discovery that will be ordered.
     7
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Carry on now, but bear that in mind.
     9
    10   MR. MORRIS (To the witness):  So, likewise, any evidence that
    11        may have been given about the lack of complaints would also
    12        be of no relevance.
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is not going to decide my mind one way or
    15        another, Mr. Morris.
    16
    17   MR. MORRIS:  Right.  We do not have to deal with that then.  (To
    18        the witness):  Phil Pearson was an Area Supervisor, was he?
    19        A.  Paul Pearson was.
    20
    Q.   Sorry, Paul Pearson?
    22        A.  Paul Pearson was, yes.
    23
    24   Q.   When he had Managers' meetings he took notes in a book, did
    25        he?
    26        A.  Occasionally he did and occasionally he did not, but he
    27        was not present at all of our Managers' meetings because he
    28        was the Area Supervisor.
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can I have some idea of his dates as Area
    31        Supervisor, if you can give them?
    32        A.  He was the Area Supervisor from -- I do not know the
    33        date exactly when he started.  I would assume it is 1989, I
    34        would say 1989, until about May of this year, and he has
    35        since moved to the Training Department at Finchley.
    36
    37   MR. MORRIS:  When he was present though he had a book in which
    38        he made notes about matters that came up at the Managers'
    39        meeting?
    40        A.  He may well have done but I think they were sort of
         personal notes rather than actual minutes of meetings.
    42
    43   Q.   So he made what seemed to be personal notes then?
    44        A.  Presumably, yes, but .....
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you know whether he had a book?
    47        A.  We have a book in the restaurant now which the Company
    48        have recently introduced where we record our Managers'
    49        meetings in it for our reference.
    50 
    51   Q.   When did that come about? 
    52        A.  I assume that has been in -- that has been since Phil 
    53        has been here -- six, eight months.  I do not know the
    54        exact date.
    55
    56   Q.   You were being asked about the Area Supervisor having a
    57        book?
    58        A.  He has not got a specific book in which he records
    59        minutes of meetings in because he is not present at all of
    60        our meetings.  I would say he was present at maybe one in