Day 115 - 06 Apr 95 - Page 16
1 of an attitude or attitudes on the behalf of the company
2 that grows and kills these pigs.
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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6 MR. RAMPTON (To the witness): If you want to go inside,
7 Dr. Long, turn to the middle of the page, it is not
8 actually the middle page, it is the one before. It is a
9 picture like that with some pigs entering what we are told
10 is the lairage at the slaughterhouse. There is a lorry
11 outside marked "Bowes of Norfolk". Do you have that?
12 A. Yes, I must say that I have only just seen this, and
13 I am by training a scientist. This is advertising
14 material. I would need to know when the pictures were
15 taken, and I will emphasise again that I made myself
16 available to go and see this myself. I do not think that
17 it is possible for me to give a good answer for having this
18 sprung on me. It was not in the information that I was
19 given the day before yesterday, so I really had difficulty
20 with dealing with all of that, let alone standing here and
21 looking at someone's advertising brochure.
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23 Q. You must understand, Dr. Long, that it is not the
24 responsibility of my people to supply you with material
25 which, arguably, the Defendants might have shown you before
26 you made your witness statement or before you came to give
27 evidence.
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29 MS. STEEL: Except we did not have it before Dr. Long made his
30 witness statement and we only got it sprung on us -----
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32 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I hope this is going to be our last day in
33 court together for about three weeks.
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35 MR. RAMPTON: So sincerely do I.
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I would rather on both sides avoid arguments
38 about this or that, just have questions asked and questions
39 answered.
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41 MR. RAMPTON: My lord, I would not want it thought -----
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43 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You have made your reservation about it.
44 Mr. Rampton will ask you further questions on the basis of
45 what is shown or not shown in the photograph and I am sure
46 you will answer those questions.
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48 MR. RAMPTON: If Dr. Long is uncomfortable with it, I will not
49 pursue it. Your Lordship has seen it and you have the
50 evidence Mr. Bowes about it. (To the witness): You did
51 notice, did you not, Dr. Long, that they do not at Bowes
52 use any hormone growth promoters or routine antibiotics;
53 you did notice that, did you not?
54 A. You actually raised that point and, if I might say,
55 this again gave me cause -- because in Mr. Bowes's evidence
56 -- and you must admit that you gave me a pretty stiff task
57 here, so I might have got some things wrong -- but on day
58 96 -- I will just read it out because I made some notes to
59 make it quicker for the court -- he made statements on this
60 matter on day 96, page 36, page 58 and page 59.
