Day 114 - 04 Apr 95 - Page 30


     
     1        I am sorry, I did not hear that remark.
     2
     3   Q.   No, I do not know whether Mr. Rampton wanted to say
     4        something.
     5
     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, if you do want to say something,
     7        Mr. Rampton, stand up and say it or make it so quiet that
     8        no-one but Mrs. Brinley-Codd can hear.
     9
    10   MR. RAMPTON:  I am sorry, it is just an observation -----
    11
    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Fortunately, my hearing is not as good as it
    13        was and I cannot catch them but other people can.
    14
    15   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, it was not an observation of any great
    16        weight.
    17
    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Very well.  (To the witness):  You just
    19        listen to whoever is on their feet and asking you a
    20        question, please, Dr. Long.  Do not worry about sounds off.
    21
    22   MS. STEEL:   Just to finish that off, so that would be a
    23        solution to the problem of sunburn?
    24
    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I have the bald head point.
    26
    27   MS. STEEL:   Right.  Just going back to weaning, does the
    28        weaning at such a young age, 21 or 24 days, have any
    29        welfare implications for the piglets and the sows?
    30        A.  Yes.  If we take the piglets first, they would
    31        obviously benefit, like any young, in having more maternal
    32        care.  So, it is very early -- in human beings you can see
    33        more or less the same as whether breast feeding is
    34        continued for as long as the government suggests it good or
    35        whether it is broken off abruptly, you can still keep the
    36        babies alive all right.  These babies, of course, are not
    37        expected to live very long so, unfortunately, that aspect
    38        of welfare does not come into it.
    39
    40        The question, really, is why does it happen at that time?
    41        It is because the sow after she has delivered her offspring
    42        will actually go on heat a few days later.  This is only
    43        oestrogenic heat.  It is governed by a release of hormones
    44        from the placenta and so on.  It is not progestational.
    45        So, she will not actually ovulate but the next time she
    46        comes round, which will be about three weeks after she has
    47        delivered the piglets, she will have an ovulatory heat.
    48
    49        Therefore, the farmer wants all the time, as I explained
    50        before, to make sure that his animals, his mother animals, 
    51        are not empty because he is feeding them and they are not 
    52        actually producing offspring.  Producing offspring is vital 
    53        in the pig industry because that is a weight of meat.
    54
    55        So, he catches, if he can, that first return and that
    56        occurring at, as I say, about three weeks means that he has
    57        to get the piglets off.  It is governed by that.  As far as
    58        the sow is concerned, well, I think I have already told you
    59        that the strain of over production is intensified by this
    60        system, so she does not get a rest.  Of course, if she does

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