Day 114 - 04 Apr 95 - Page 21


     
     1        casualty in animals during transport.  Did the situation
     2        change since that time in terms of what the laws were or
     3        what the regulations were for the transport and slaughter
     4        of sick animals?
     5        A.  Since this report there have been codes of practice on
     6        the dealing with casualty animals or fallen stock, as they
     7        are often referred to, and actions particularly by the
     8        British Veterinary Association in order to regularise the
     9        vets' intervention in these matters.  So this report was
    10        one of the first efforts to try to get rid of some of the
    11        abuses in the treatment of casualty animals.  So, action
    12        has been taken.  It is still the cause of a lot of
    13        controversy.
    14
    15   Q.   As you said yesterday, I believe, sick animals are still
    16        transported?
    17        A.  Yes, there is a great deal of controversy.  I could
    18        cite a recent case involving a vet.  That went to the
    19        Magistrates Court.  He was found guilty.  Then it went to
    20        appeal and I think it went backwards and forwards.
    21        Ultimately, he was found -- his original sentence was
    22        reversed, but it just goes to show how controversial it
    23        was.  The case was actually brought by the Ministry of
    24        Agriculture.
    25
    26   Q.   Is that because the laws in this area are unclear?
    27        A.  It is difficult ---
    28
    29   Q.   Or confusing?
    30        A.  -- to assess certainly whether an animal has gone down
    31        is fit to be transported.  It means that the vet has to
    32        decide how far the animal can be transported, what sort of
    33        state it is in, should it just go to the nearest
    34        slaughterhouse, what are the commercial pressures on the
    35        farmer and the value of the animal?  So, it is a very
    36        difficult decision for a vet to make, short of having the
    37        animal destroyed on the spot.
    38
    39   Q.   In paragraph 187 on page 46 -----
    40
    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do veterinary surgeons carry humane killers
    42        of one kind or another in their ordinary equipment?
    43        A.  Yes.
    44
    45   Q.   What are they normally?
    46        A.  Captive bolt nearly always, but they also carry
    47        phenobarbitone so that they can inject.  Also, RSPCA
    48        inspectors, they have access to captive bolts and they
    49        trained, but they do not get much practice with them.
    50        Usually, a vet or an RSPCA inspector, if it is necessary to 
    51        kill an animal instantaneously on humane grounds, a farm 
    52        animal, will actually call a slaughterman or a knacker to 
    53        do it.
    54
    55   MR. MORRIS:  Than in paragraph 187 it talks about the laws
    56        protecting that they say should provide protection for
    57        unfit animals against unnecessary suffering before they
    58        reach the slaughterhouse.  They say:  "We are not convinced
    59        however that this is either fully understood by those
    60        concerned or that such provisions are adequately enforced

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