Day 113 - 03 Apr 95 - Page 28


     
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     2   Q.   Dr. Long, hold on a minute.  These hydraulic
     3        platforms, when did they start to come in as a sort of
     4        alternative?
     5        A.  In this country, I would think they became commoner
     6        about five years ago.  They do go back earlier, on the
     7        Continent they have had them for longer.  But, in this
     8        country, to some extent, as welfarists, what we have tried
     9        to do with the design of markets and also at
    10        slaughterhouses is to have the dock where the animals come,
    11        the dock is raised so it is level with the tail board, so
    12        the animals come off level rather than being -- rather than
    13        having to negotiate a steep ramp.
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    15   Q.   There was one question I was going to ask you about some of
    16        the dairy cows:  When transported, are they pregnant?
    17        A.  They can certainly be.  What you have to bear in mind
    18        all the time is we have quotas.  Farmers have to look at
    19        quotas with their milk production.  They will lose profit
    20        if they over-produce.  So, they are all the time trying to
    21        keep within quota.  They may fall back a bit when they are
    22        looking now, of course, at the possibility of using bovine
    23        somatotrophin or at least the trade is.  It has been
    24        introduced in the USA but not yet in the UK or in Europe.
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    26        But the point is that if the market suddenly becomes
    27        attractive, well, then the farmer may -- he may not even
    28        know if the heifer is pregnant or not -- so he may sell her
    29        and then it is found that she is pregnant at the
    30        slaughterhouse.
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    32        I should say there is a small trade in faecal calves, that
    33        is, calves that are actually born, if you like, by a crude
    34        sort of cesarian in the slaughterhouses.  Those are used
    35        for pharmaceutical purposes.  I would mention this to you
    36        because they may not be used for medical products because
    37        of the threat of BSE.  So, that is an effect that
    38        illustrates how serious BSE is generally.  It is,
    39        therefore, I would make an illusion to the fact that
    40        medical authorities regard it as a possible risk to health.
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    42   MR. RAMPTON:  Oh, dear, Mr. Morris does not really seem to pay
    43        any attention your Lordship's ruling.
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    45   MR. MORRIS:  I did not say anything.
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    47   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Quite frankly, Mr. Rampton, it was a sentence
    48        which just came in in a chain of narrative.  I can
    49        perfectly well, for the purposes of this matter, put it on
    50        one side.  There are bound to be leaks and surplages all 
    51        the time in a case like this. 
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    53   MR. MORRIS:  I think we have dealt with quite a substantial
    54        amount of concerns up to slaughter.  I just want to go back
    55        over, you talked about castration.  Are there other similar
    56        kinds of operations that are done for production,
    57        benefiting the production system?
    58        A.  Disbudding is done, that is, with animals that are
    59        going to develop horns.
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