Day 113 - 03 Apr 95 - Page 18


     
     1        what you have said about dropped udders so far.
     2        A.  I think the main problems are that the cow is being
     3        forced to this production, and everything you do, all the
     4        other systems, metabolic disease, are all related to it.
     5        You would have just the same if you tried to do this with a
     6        woman and expected her to yield, what, two gallons of milk
     7        a day.  You would be feeding her enormous amounts of feed
     8        and her metabolism would be deranged.
     9
    10        So, these productions diseases are all associated with it.
    11        With the cow, you have the extra strain that she is both
    12        pregnant and lactating simultaneously.  With many other
    13        animals, for instance, the sow, then they are sequential.
    14        The animal has not to do both -- has not to maintain both
    15        forms of production simultaneously.
    16
    17   MS. STEEL:   You mentioned about the cows kicking their udders
    18        and problems with lameness.  If the cow kicks the udder, is
    19        that something that is painful to the cow?
    20        A.  Yes, in fact, it actually causes injury.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  As I understood what you were saying, in
    23        order to try to avoid kicking the udder, you were not so
    24        much looking at it from pain in the udder, but the animal
    25        walks in an unnatural way and that causes lameness which
    26        causes pain?
    27        A.  Yes.
    28
    29   Q.   Were you saying more than that to me?
    30        A.  Yes.  I would say that in the cubicle system where we
    31        are now and just finishing, there is a common complaint
    32        called trampled udder, where the cow has this enormous
    33        udder to raise and, in getting up, actually tramples on her
    34        own teats.  This may mean that the teat is torn off or
    35        there is a substantial injury to the udder, and that is a
    36        cause of great distress.
    37
    38        That can be overcome to some extent by improving the
    39        housing so that the animal has more room and also, of
    40        course, if you can have milking, say, three times a day
    41        instead of twice so the udder does not get so engorged, but
    42        that is not common.
    43
    44   MR. MORRIS:  You said that cattle can live up to 25 years or you
    45        have actually some cattle that are 25 years old and they
    46        are still alive.  How often would calving naturally take
    47        place or should it take place?
    48        A.  Calving would not take place as regularly.  I mean, it
    49        is terribly difficult to look back to cows as to what they
    50        are naturally.  They would have a smaller rate of 
    51        reproduction but, of course, this is a completely 
    52        artificial thing because you use artificial insemination 
    53        anyway.  They are not in a herd in the normal way with a
    54        bull where the bulls will spend a lot of their time
    55        competing for mates and competing for territory.
    56
    57        I think, to answer your question, the best comparison we
    58        can make is one I have mentioned already comparing a
    59        suckler cow who produces, say, three litres of milk for a
    60        calf -- that is what the calf needs -- compared with a

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