Day 113 - 03 Apr 95 - Page 16


     
     1        A.  Well, that is the dairy beef side which I have been
     2        concentrating on.  I can -- what I will answer your
     3        question now is if I just do the sum, the cow has started
     4        into this reproductive cycle just over the age of two.  If
     5        she had got to her fourth lactation she would have been six
     6        years old.  Well, the average cow does not reach that age.
     7        So, she is probably culled at the age of five or six,
     8        sometimes younger, because in very intensive systems she is
     9        worn out -- the wear and tear, as the farmers say, gets
    10        her.
    11
    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just pause there a moment.  When you say in
    13        "a typical dairy beef herd", if I see them on a lowland
    14        farm and meadow with a lot of, I was going to say
    15        Friesians, but I had better just call them black and white
    16        cows in them, because they may well not be Friesians, would
    17        that be likely to be a typical dairy beef herd by your
    18        definition or a suckler herd?
    19        A.  Yes.  Generally speaking, particularly in areas like
    20        the southwest, you would see cattle in the dairy beef
    21        system.  If you went to Scotland and you saw Aberdeen
    22        Angus, black animals -----
    23
    24   Q.   I understand the beef herd, but what is the suckler herd
    25        then?
    26        A.  Well, the suckler herd is the fact that the calf runs
    27        with its dam for eight or nine months, and so the calf has
    28        the milk and it is not in competition with human sucklers,
    29        if you like.
    30
    31   Q.   I just wanted to know your definition, that is all.
    32        A.  I should just say that I have told you about single
    33        suckle, that is.  Now, sometimes, as with most female
    34        animals, you can get more milk out if you sustain it and
    35        sometimes a farmer will suckle or will get another calf, by
    36        another calf ------
    37
    38   Q.   Do not be taken off that.  I just wanted to know what your
    39        terms meant.
    40        A.  So -----
    41
    42   Q.   You have got the typical dairy beef herd, an average
    43        culling age at about five which would, in fact, be before
    44        the fourth lactation?
    45        A.  Yes.  Could I just amplify that?  The output from a
    46        modern British dairy cow is about 5,500 litres a year.
    47        That is about twice what it was just after World War II and
    48        twice, for instance, what it would be from a cow in other
    49        parts of the European Union.  At the Royal Smithfield show
    50        last December, there were cows there yielding over 10,000 
    51        litres of milk a year, that is 10,000 kilogrammes.  Now, 
    52        the weight of that milk is such that the udder is so 
    53        engorged, they have to be milked three times a day.
    54
    55   MS. STEEL:  Are there any welfare implications about the
    56        increased amount of milk that they are producing?
    57        A.  Yes, because there are a lot of welfare indications
    58        because these cows, you see, are consuming, if you like,
    59        calories at the rate of about, one cow consuming calories
    60        at the rate of about 25 people.  So, their metabolism -- 25

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