Day 112 - 31 Mar 95 - Page 07
1 Q. You do. Do you think it at all fair to suggest that, in
2 fact, what you did while you were at Jarretts was to pick a
3 number of nits -- it is quite an old slaughterhouse, is it
4 not?
5 A. Yes, it is, it is fairly old.
6
7 Q. That when you were dismissed, unfairly as you thought, to
8 blow those nits up into rather large and
9 frightening-looking animals? Do you think that is a fair
10 suggestion or not?
11 A. No, I think it is very unfair. If you have, while you
12 were present here yesterday, when we went through my
13 evidence, and there were various aspects that were actually
14 statutorily wrong at the Jarretts. There were various
15 aspects that I listed that were of considerable public
16 health concern to me, in my professional opinion, and I do
17 not think that that is picking nits.
18
19 Q. I am interested in those and I will go into those in some
20 detail in a moment, Ms. Hovi, because you listed them in
21 your written statement -- we will have to look at some of
22 them -- as breaches of statutory requirements as embodied
23 in The Fresh Meat (Hygiene and Inspection) Regulations
24 1992. But, first of all, can I put something to you in
25 relation to your earlier part of your statement about TVCs
26 and swab sampling or testing?
27
28 Would you accept that your conversation with Mr. Bob
29 Jarrett about this subject went something like this --
30 I know it is a year ago, or nearly a year ago -- you said:
31 "Would you like me to do some swab testing for
32 microbiological counts?" He said: "No, thank you very
33 much. We already do it"?
34 A. No, it was not at all like that. I said that I would
35 like to do some microbiological sampling.
36
37 Q. But he did already do it, did he not? They were already
38 doing it?
39 A. Well, nobody told me about that.
40
41 Q. Can you find -- I am sorry, I do not know where it is up
42 there -- your written statement. You had it yesterday. My
43 Lord, it is in 1B.
44
45 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Pale blue 1B, right at the very back.
46
47 MR. RAMPTON: 1B, it is the last document in 1B, or it should
48 be. Your time sheets are behind the statement, I think.
49 A. No, it is not here. (Same handed)
50
51 Q. First of all, look at paragraph 6 on the last page, the
52 very last sentence, where you say: "The boning
53 temperatures of the meat in the boning hall at the Alec
54 Jarrett Limited were as a rule above 7 degrees centigrade".
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56 MS. STEEL: "Well above".
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58 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, "... well above plus 7 degrees centigrade".
59 Have you measured that yourself?
60 A. Yes, I did.