Day 111 - 30 Mar 95 - Page 29


     
     1        That would, basically, be my concern about the separation
     2        of the outside of the abattoir and inside.
     3
     4   Q.   So we have got up to dehiding.
     5        A.  I would like to start from the beginning of the
     6        slaughter line then if we are looking at the slaughter
     7        hygiene in particular.  If we start at the beginning, the
     8        first?
     9
    10   Q.   Take it slowly.
    11
    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Do try to speak as slowly as you can
    13        bring yourself to do?
    14        A.  All right.  Well, the first area of concern for me was
    15        where it says "blood hoist", "bleed hoist".  There is a man
    16        there who shackles the carcasses.
    17
    18   MR. MORRIS:  This is just under "cattle stun pen"?
    19        A.  That is right, at the beginning of the slaughter line.
    20        There is a man there who hoists the animal from its back
    21        leg on to a hook and chain and the carcass is hoisted up.
    22        It is hanging from one of its back leg, it is stunned at
    23        this point of time.  The same man, he has no access to hand
    24        wash facilities.  The hand wash facilities that you can see
    25        next to the legging transfer platform are high up, about
    26        eight feet high up from the floor, so he has no access to
    27        those facilities.  He has no access to facilities to wash
    28        his hands or his instrument.
    29
    30        He uses a pithing rod which is a long metal instrument.
    31        This is put through the stunning hole in the animal's head
    32        and it is inserted into the brains, and this is to severe
    33        the central nerve system from the rest of the body in order
    34        to prevent kicking from the animal.
    35
    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I have heard about that.
    37
    38   THE WITNESS:  All right.  This instrument normally, since it is
    39        put inside the body and it actually goes as far down that
    40        it does not remain at the head area.  Once the head is
    41        removed, the area, as far as the pithing rod goes to the
    42        neck area of animal.  This instrument was handled by the
    43        man who handled the back legs of the animal which are
    44        extremely dirty and also that he pithed the animal and he
    45        did not wash his hands in between, and the pithing rod was
    46        kept stuck between a water pipe in the wall in this very
    47        extremely dirty area and it was never sterilised.  There
    48        was no steriliser for it.  That is the first point where
    49        I think the sterilisation procedures were inadequate.
    50 
    51        The next point, if you go further on the slaughter line, 
    52        you see where it says "blood trough", the man who bleeds 
    53        the animal after the stunning stands there.  He usually
    54        stands at the corner where the ray turns to be able to
    55        bleed the animal early enough before it regains
    56        consciousness which, well, animals at this type of stunning
    57        would not do that anyway, but between the time that is
    58        recommended to pass between the stunning and bleeding.  He
    59        stands there and he bleeds the animals.  He sticks his
    60        knife inside the animal's neck basically -- I have to say

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