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     1        this all takes place?
     2        A.  I suppose it is a generally acknowledged fact that
     3        there are risks involved in producing food from animals to
     4        start with because animals usually share a lot of the same
     5        pathogenic bacteria and some diseases as well as the humans
     6        do due to the similarities in our physiologies.  That is
     7        part of the reason why the industry is, the slaughter
     8        industry, is regulated as it is.  If I go straight into the
     9        risks that I consider in my professional opinion to be
    10        relevant to slaughtering of beef ----
    11
    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If you do so, if you can hang it on a peg of
    13        something in your statement, that will help me.  By all
    14        means, look at your statement as you do so, if it will help
    15        you.
    16
    17   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  Before we get to the actual details of the
    18        specific operation at Jarretts, if you would just talk in
    19        general what you were talking about, public health
    20        considerations.
    21        A.  Yes, I am sure this court has already heard a lot
    22        of ----
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I have, you see, I have had several days of
    25        evidence about what the risks are.
    26        A.  I would  obviously want-----
    27
    28   MR. MORRIS:  With respect, we have not had several days from our
    29        side.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  Then ask her about any additional things
    32        you want which are not already common ground.
    33
    34   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I do intervene at this stage to remind
    35        Mr. Morris (which I know I do not need to) of the ruling
    36        which your Lordship made upon 7th February of this year.
    37        I know what is happening and I am very cautious about it.
    38
    39   MR. MORRIS:  Mr. Rampton does not know anything that is
    40        happening.  I am trying to ask our witness who is, clearly,
    41        an expert and a professional person with great experience,
    42        what the risks are to public health.  If you go through it
    43        briefly, we will -----
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Take it very shortly.  I was hoping to
    46        avoid going over the same ground you have been over already
    47        by just seeing if there was anything additional for you to
    48        add.
    49        A.  From a professional point of view, what are we looking
    50        for?  What are we worried about at an abattoir?  What is an 
    51        Official Veterinary Surgeon who is responsible for what 
    52        comes out of the abattoir?  I would want to explain before 
    53        I go ----
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Slowly.
    56        A.  -- into the detail, I want to point out that the
    57        Official Veterinary Surgeon is responsible for the hygiene
    58        standards at an abattoir and he or she is responsible for
    59        those standards, even when she has delegated work to other
    60        people like the meat inspectors who work on the line, or

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