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     1        with the product being advertised?
     2        A.  Yes.
     3
     4   MS. STEEL:  The witness did try to draw attention to the
     5        right-hand column of Advertisers' Dream, but she was
     6        stopped from doing that.
     7
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Come back to that in a moment.  I think you
     9        would accept that you had not answered the question.  It is
    10        important that you do answer the question, and then by all
    11        means go on?
    12        A.  You did feel that I answered that point, yes?
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, you did but, quite frankly, the way to
    15        do it is to make a note in your book, "right-hand column
    16        page 21", and then when you come to re-examine pick it up,
    17        if it has not come back into the case already.  For all
    18        I know, we will get back to the right-hand column anyway.
    19
    20   MS. STEEL:  I mean, a bit like Dave, I learn my habits from
    21        Mr. Rampton.  Mr. Rampton does quite often say exactly the
    22        same things in the same situation.
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am making this suggestion so that if there
    25        are any things which are missed out, you can come back to
    26        them in re-examination.  In fact, it was my interruption
    27        which stopped you when you were going to refer to the
    28        right-hand column, because I was anxious to know whether
    29        you agreed or did not agree with the suggestion Mr. Rampton
    30        put to you.
    31
    32   MR. RAMPTON:  Your Lordship, I think, has no fear; your Lordship
    33        knows that.  I do not know why Ms. Steel still assumes that
    34        I do the same as the Defendants.  I do not.  In the
    35        right-hand column of your paper, Ms. Dibb, page 21, you
    36        write this (this is the second paragraph), and I think you
    37        began to start saying something about this a moment ago:
    38         "Celebrities and characters used in advertising are very
    39        important to children.  While Zuckerman and Gianinno's
    40        study of four to ten year-olds found that even by the age
    41        of ten only 15 per cent of the children knew that
    42        commercials intend to sell products, the ability to link
    43        characters and adverts was near-perfect for all age groups,
    44        even the four year-olds.  Other research has shown that
    45        children as young as four are brand conscious".  It does
    46        not say that either, does it, this report, this study?
    47        A.  I think it does show the link between characters and
    48        adverts.  As you have just said, it was nearly perfect.  We
    49        agreed that it was near on 100 per cent.
    50 
    51   Q.   But it says -- I am sorry. 
    52        A.  Are you seeking to draw a distinction between -- 
    53        perhaps you could tell me a bit more clearly?
    54
    55   Q.   Yes.  What you have omitted from that paragraph, never mind
    56        the other paragraph to which I shall come back in a moment,
    57        are two things, are they not?  One is that the -- I may
    58        have that wrong, but I do not think I have.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Perhaps I could ask, while you think about

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