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     1        said, because if you mean what you say, it has this
     2        consequence, does it not, Ms. Dibb, that if the age at
     3        which a child is able to assess an advertisement critically
     4        in the proper sense of that word, it does not matter?
     5        A.  That is not what I said.
     6
     7   Q.   That is, I think ----?
     8        A.  I am sorry if I was not clear enough on that.  I am not
     9        saying -----
    10
    11   Q.   You said you can argue about it, but it does not mater?
    12        A.  No, I did not say it did not matter.  I think it
    13        matters but in a different way.  It matters in the sense of
    14        there is some debate about whether it is right to advertise
    15        to children who may not have developed certain critical
    16        faculties.  That is a debate.  It is one in which I have
    17        certain concerns.  It is one that others have expressed
    18        certain concerns.  But I did not -- what I was trying to
    19        make the point was to separate out that particular
    20        significance and concern from the effects that advertising
    21        has on influencing choices and preferences and behaviour,
    22        and particularly from where I am coming from, from a
    23        nutritional point of view.
    24
    25   Q.   You are coming, as I understand the totality of your
    26        evidence so far -- you will correct me if I have
    27        misunderstood it -- from this place, Ms. Dibb, are you not,
    28        that it is wrong to persuade anybody to eat anything which
    29        cannot be described as "healthy food"?
    30        A.  No, I have not said that.
    31
    32   Q.   Is that not right?  So what is the objection -- tell me
    33        bluntly in clear, English terms -- if it is not, in your
    34        view, deceptive, what is the objection, in your view, of
    35        food advertising to children?
    36        A.  The concern is with the nature and extent, the type of
    37        food advertising to children.
    38
    39   Q.   Then it should not be allowed to be advertised to me,
    40        should it?  I am whatever it is -- well over a child's age,
    41        anyway?
    42        A.  There are significant differences in the nature and
    43        extent of advertising to children than to adults.  The
    44        focus is on children, as I have said before, because of the
    45        importance of diet during childhood, and also the fact that
    46        children do not, as we have pointed out, have the same
    47        abilities to assess what may or may not be in their best
    48        interests.  You may choose to take a course of action which
    49        you are entirely entitled to.
    50 
    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is that really the key to your view, that 
    52        children may be attracted to something by an advertisement 
    53        relating to it without having -- they have the facility to
    54        be strongly attracted without having a balancing facility
    55        to realise what might be adverse to their interest in the
    56        product; is that what it boils down to?
    57        A.  Yes, and what we have also seen is that children do
    58        have, and the older children get some knowledge, that
    59        actually the knowledge, that knowledge relates -- does not
    60        relate to behaviour.  In fact, the influence from

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