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     1        of advertising for foods that we are encouraged to eat more
     2        of, I think that is the effect of it?
     3        A.  Yes.
     4
     5   Q.   So you would like to see much heavier advertising of things
     6        like wholemeal bread and fruit, things like that, on
     7        television; is that right?
     8        A.  The foods we are being encouraged to eat more of are
     9        fruits and vegetables and starchy carbohydrates.
    10
    11   Q.   Do you know, apart from bread manufacturers, of any
    12        vegetable grower who has sufficient clout or money to be
    13        able to put advertisements on television?
    14        A.  The National Food Alliance has begun to open up
    15        discussions with many of the trade associations or
    16        commercial interests for promoting the wide range of foods
    17        that we are being encouraged to eat more of.  There have
    18        been successful campaigns; for example, the Sea Fish
    19        Industry Authority has been very pleased with the increased
    20        consumption of fish following its advertising campaign.
    21        Fish is one of those foods we are being encouraged to eat
    22        more of.
    23
    24        Certainly advertising for milk, which is being encouraged
    25        children to consume milk, has been successful.  Yes,
    26        indeed, you correctly identify one of the barriers which is
    27        money, but what we have sought to do is not just to end it
    28        there and say, "This is the present situation".   We would
    29        like to explore ways, and are beginning to explore ways, as
    30        to try to find funding for much more positive nutritional
    31        messages.  This is a very important side of the work that
    32        the National Food Alliance and I am are involved in.  We do
    33        make proposals for how that could be done; for example, we
    34        propose maybe a levy on advertisers.  I have met ----
    35
    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will ask you to pause there, because
    37        I think we may be drifting away from the point a bit.
    38        I understand what you say about the dominance of
    39        advertising food to children being directed at foods which
    40        are high in fat and sugars.  It does appear that there is
    41        very little, if any, advertising of vegetable products or
    42        some of milk to children.  That being the case, have you
    43        reached the view that the only way to get balance is to
    44        remove advertising of fatty and sugary foods to children,
    45        that is, banning transmissions at times when large numbers
    46        of children are likely to be viewing?
    47        A.  Yes, that is the position.
    48
    49   Q.   Is that what you are saying?
    50        A.  That is the position we have adopted at the moment, 
    51        that is not to say that if things were different -- we very 
    52        much see this as a process which we believe should be 
    53        balanced by greater positive nutritional messages.  But the
    54        sad state of affairs is at the moment, and we are working
    55        hard to try and change things, at the moment it would
    56        appear that the only way to reach more of a balance is to
    57        put forward this proposal.
    58
    59   MR. RAMPTON:  Can I ask you now then a little bit more about the
    60        effects, or supposed effects, of advertising on children

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