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     1        interest that she has looked into this in great detail or
     2        anything like that?
     3        A.  Mrs. Crawford is part of the Senior Quality Assurance
     4        team for Europe.  I believe there are four people on that
     5        team.  She is a member of that team and she has a wealth of
     6        experience in all aspects of quality assurance, including
     7        animal welfare at our suppliers both in the UK and through
     8        her European colleagues also in Europe.
     9
    10   Q.   Does she have any experience of treatment of the animals
    11        other than from the visits that she has made?
    12        A.  No, not that I know of anyway.
    13
    14   Q.   Is that the same for the other people who make visits?
    15        A.  Yes.  Yes, essentially, the people working in the
    16        quality assurance are generalists.  They deal with many
    17        products and they deal with many aspects of those
    18        products.  They are not experts in any one particular field
    19        but they have knowledge of almost all of those fields.
    20
    Q.   A basic knowledge based on their -----
    22        A.  Work experience.
    23
    24   Q.   Which is just a small part of their total job in the
    25        Quality Assurance Department?
    26        A.  They are generalists; they are not experts.
    27
    28   MR. MORRIS:  May it be possible to have a five-minute break?
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    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    31
    32                            (Short Adjournment)
    33
    34   MR. MORRIS:  Which countries in Europe does McDonald's buy beef
    35        from in the UK apart from, obviously, UK beef?
    36        A.  It is, obviously, the UK and Ireland and then it will
    37        vary; it is occasionally France; it could be any one of the
    38        EU countries but, generally, it is not.  It is UK and
    39        Ireland is the vast majority and occasionally from France.
    40        That has been the most recent practice.
    41
    42   Q.   But, I mean, the other countries in Europe have -- well,
    43        all of them from time to time?
    44        A.  No, not all of them, not by any means.
    45
    46   Q.   Which ones?
    47        A.  You will have to ask Mr. Walker specifically.  From my
    48        memory, he has bought some beef in Denmark; he has bought
    49        some in Germany and he buys beef in Holland to supply back
    50        to Holland. 
    51 
    52   Q.   Yes, that is true. 
    53        A.  And then France.
    54
    55   Q.   What is McDonald's policy on the buying of beef?  Yes, what
    56        is their policy on the sources of beef?
    57        A.  In Europe?  You are talking Europe, UK?
    58
    59   Q.   It could be generally but as applies to the UK.
    60        A.  Generally, as it applies to the UK, the policy is to