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1 conference, yes.
2
3 Q. Was one of the resolutions -- I just quote from resolution
4 H1, paragraph (c); it is from Mr. Hopkins's statement which
5 the court has -- "Considering the objectives of sustainable
6 management as stated in the statement of forest
7 principles", then it says "vis. Forest resources and forest
8 land should be sustainably managed to meet the social,
9 economic, ecological, cultural and spiritual needs of
10 present and future generations". Do you remember that?
11 A. I remember taht that statement was included in the
12 final report.
13
14 Q. Would you agree with that?
15 A. Yes, I think the whole environmental progress that has
16 been made over the years has led in 1993 to statements of
17 that kind being very relevant.
18
19 Q. Do you remember resolution H2, paragraph (b), I quote:
20 "Recalling the definition of biological diversity agreed
21 upon in the convention on biological diversity", it says,
22 "vis. 'Biological diversity means a variability among
23 living organisms from all sources including, inter alia,
24 terrestrial marine and other aquatic eco systems and
25 ecological complexes of which they are part. This includes
26 diversity within species, between species, and of
27 ecosystems'." Do you remember that?
28 A. I recall such a statement being included and it is a
29 statement of fact; it is not a statement of any programme
30 but a statement of fact.
31
32 Q. On a definition of biological diversity?
33 A. On a definition biological diversity.
34
35 Q. Would you agree with that definition?
36 A. I have no reason either technically or otherwise to
37 disagree with it.
38
39 MR. JUSTICE BELL: When you are reading from something like
40 that, take it very steadily, especially if the witness does
41 not actually have a copy in front of him. He has clearly
42 understood what you have read so far, but bear that in
43 mind.
44
45 MR. MORRIS: I presume you have read Mr. Hopkins's statement?
46 A. I have.
47
48 Q. Just on the word "sustainable" are you aware there were
49 complaints to the Advertising Authority on the use of the
50 word "sustainable" in advertising?
51 A. I am aware that the subject has been raised with the
52 Advertising Standards Association, yes.
53
54 Q. Are you aware that the ASA has a requirement for using the
55 word "sustainable" in terms of forests? I quote, just tell
56 me if you are aware of that: "The ASA requires
57 'documentation showing that the growth and production of
58 timber causes no damage to the environment'."
59 A. I think there is a good deal more to the statement than
60 that.
