Day 055 - 25 Nov 94 - Page 29


     
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     2        Do you have any comments on page 1, "excessive consumption
     3        of any food"?  It says in the note:  "Although apparently
     4        vague and open-ended"; it says about a "common sense
     5        interpretation"?
     6        A.  Yes.  We have, in our response to these proposals,
     7        suggested that the National Food Guide should be used as a
     8        criteria for determining what is excessive.  So, for
     9        example, the excessive consumption of a chocolate bar would
    10        be much lower than, for example, the excessive consumption
    11        of apples.
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    13   MR. MORRIS:   Right.  Would that affect something like the
    14        hamburger character who lives to eat -----
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    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  When you say the National Food Guide, what
    17        are you talking about there?
    18        A.  I understand you referred to this earlier.
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    20   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  It came up in the nutrition section that we
    21        had.  I do not know if you remember, it was a leaflet.  It
    22        may have been the "Eat Well", but it was a leaflet rather
    23        than a pamphlet.  It had a pie chart with the different
    24        food selections, the five food groups, including -- I think
    25        Mr. Lobstein said there was a dispute over whether the
    26        confectionery should be allowed as a food group, sweets and
    27        cakes.
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    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is that what you are referring to?
    30        A.  Yes.  It is what I referred to earlier this morning
    31        when I was going through the NFA's submission in its
    32        definition of fatty and sugary food, as based on the
    33        National Food Guide categorisation of food into five
    34        categories, which are fruits and vegetables, the starchy
    35        foods, both of which should be the largest categories of
    36        food in a balanced diet.
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    38   MR. MORRIS:  It is part of the Health of the Nation
    39        official  ---
    40        A.  Yes, initiative.
    41
    42   Q.   -- initiative?
    43        A.  Yes.
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    45   Q.   Would that relate to cartoon characters, do you think?
    46        A.  Yes.  I think if a character is portrayed as
    47        encouraging or condoning excessive consumption of any food,
    48        then, yes, that would fall within this.
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    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If the most recent COMA report were the guide 
    51        to be followed, it would be wrong to encourage the 
    52        consumption of one whole chocolate bar in a week, would it 
    53        not, because they said we ought to keep it down to
    54        two-thirds?
    55        A.  Well, indeed, if the ITC used that as their
    56        recommendations, that may be the case.
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    58   MR. MORRIS:  Page 2, I do not think we need to go into it --
    59        this has been gone through -- unless there is anything
    60        particularly you want to say.

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