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     1        affect that kind of claim or implication?
     2        A.  Yes, I think it would.  It would depend on the context
     3        in which it was done but, certainly, if it implied that
     4        meat was a superior source of energy or rapid or
     5        reinvigorating, that it had benefits over other sources of
     6        energy, either directly or it was implied -- because you
     7        must remember that this relates to implied claims, and
     8        implied claims can often be shown in visual representations
     9        and other connections with personalities who may be shown
    10        for their strength or energy output.
    11
    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  There would be no question of a West London
    13        sprinter being beaten by a milk float on television any
    14        longer; that would cut that right out?
    15        A.  I think the whole area of the associations of food with
    16        elite athletes is a questionable one, yes.
    17
    18   MR. MORRIS:  We are obviously going to leave this pamphlet now.
    19        Without going into all the details of the ASA Codes and
    20        your proposed changes, would you say that you follow the
    21        same spirit throughout; what you have said for the ITC
    22        would follow through the ASA, the same concerns, the
    23        same  -----
    24        A.  Certainly, the same generalised claims.  The ASA
    25        submission here does have quite a different emphasis, in
    26        that it is acknowledged that the majority of advertising to
    27        children goes through to television, and there is far, far
    28        less advertising to children that falls under the
    29        Advertising Standards Authority's remit.  Therefore, there
    30        is more emphasis about claims in the broad area of health
    31        and nutrition claims---
    32
    33   Q.   The ASA -----
    34        A.  -- and slimming products, where it has been recognised
    35        by the Advertising Standards Authority's own research that
    36        there are concerns, particularly, about some of the claims
    37        that are made in these two areas.
    38
    39   Q.   The ASA deals with all print advertising.  How far does its
    40        remit go, or should go, as far as you can see?
    41        A.  There are two codes of practice.  There is the British
    42        Code of Advertising Practice and, in addition, there is a
    43        code of practice on sales promotion material, and I do not
    44        have to have to hand its full name, but the intention is
    45        that that covers other sales promotional literature and
    46        material which is beyond what is considered an
    47        advertisement in another publication.
    48
    49   Q.   Yesterday, you said that you felt that, for example, with
    50        McDonald's, their use of promotion, say, in schools or 
    51        sports, or whatever, vouchers being given out, that would 
    52        be covered then by the ASA--- 
    53        A.  It is my understanding ---
    54
    55   Q.   -- or should be?
    56        A.  -- that company material that goes into schools
    57        generally is not covered by the Code of Sales Promotion
    58        Practice.  There has been concern about the promotional
    59        nature and sometimes the misleadingness of material going
    60        into schools supposedly as an aid to teaching; and, in

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