Day 050 - 10 Nov 94 - Page 22


     
     1   Q.   Kids enjoy it?
     2        A.  I am sure they do.
     3
     4   Q.   Not because they need it?
     5        A.  They would be unlikely to eat it if they did not enjoy
     6        it.
     7
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can he really answer this?  If you imagine a
     9        child in a mid-morning break eating a chocolate bar, no
    10        doubt they enjoy the taste.  It might equally well be
    11        because they feel a little hungry, which is the body's way
    12        of saying, "I need stoking up until lunchtime", and they
    13        may then eat a chocolate bar because they can take the
    14        wrapper off and eat it in half a minute and have achieved
    15        that object.  It might be for some reason, completely.
    16
    17        Can Mr. Miles really help on this?  One child may eat the
    18        chocolate bar because they just love chocolate, even if
    19        they are not feeling particularly hungry.  Can Mr. Miles
    20        help?
    21
    22   MR. MORRIS:  You made a assertion about difficult feeders, that
    23        advertising can be helpful, portraying the eating of food
    24        as a fun occasion or something that Ian Rush does, or
    25        whatever; yes?
    26
    27        I am extremely concerned with this assertion.  Maybe, if
    28        you feel you are not a nutritionist, the best thing is to
    29        ask you if you would like to withdraw that statement?
    30        A.  No, I do not wish to withdraw it.  It was a statement
    31        of what I have observed from reading a great deal of
    32        research upon the subject.
    33
    34   Q.   If I was to put an alternative point of view, then -- but
    35        briefly, because it may be it is a matter for other areas
    36        of the case -- that the portrayal of food as entertainment,
    37        as something that gives not nourishment, but gratification,
    38        is in fact a serious nutritional problem in this country,
    39        would you agree with that?
    40        A.  No.  I do not know I would agree with that.  I see no
    41        reason why an individual food or an eating occasion should
    42        not be presented as being enjoyable.  In the family, one
    43        tries to make eating occasions enjoyable.  That is the
    44        whole point of a Sunday lunch, for example.
    45
    46   Q.   Are you aware that nutritionists have identified, and
    47        people concerned with public health and the Health of the
    48        Nation pamphlet, that the main course of degenerative
    49        diseases in our society, in terms of hundreds of thousands
    50        of people -- heart disease, cancer, whatever, obesity, 
    51        diabetes -- is the problem of over-nutrition, apart from 
    52        under-nutrition, that people are consuming too much fat, 
    53        salt and sugar in their diet; are you aware of that?
    54        A.  Indeed, I am.  I am also aware of the fact that the
    55        Health of the Nation identifies that those people often
    56        take insufficient exercise.  One has to look at the input
    57        and the output.
    58
    59   Q.   But in terms of food and that the Health of the Nation has
    60        identified advertisers as having some responsibility and

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