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     1        been proposed?
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We did go into this before ---
     4
     5   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, I am -----
     6
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  -- because he answered in the affirmative my
     8        suggestion that, for better or worse, they decided to draw
     9        the line between that situation and frank exhortation.
    10
    11   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    12
    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You say they are wrong.
    14
    15   MR. MORRIS:  (To the witness)  Where they drawn the line is
    16        their decision, basically?
    17        A.  Yes.
    18
    19   Q.   So if people, not understanding the Code -- what I am
    20        saying is that the number of complaints that are validated
    21        does not necessarily represent the fact that the public is
    22        entirely happy with the effects of advertising on children?
    23        A.  No.  It does not entirely equal the same.  They are not
    24        the same thing.  But if I may point out, there is also the
    25        question of how many complaints they get in the first
    26        place.  It is not only whether the complaints are upheld.
    27        If they receive a very small number of complaints on any
    28        specific subject, whether the complaint is upheld or not,
    29        that is an indication, I would suggest, that there is not a
    30        high level of concern.
    31
    32   Q.   The 498 people every month -- we are not just talking about
    33        food advertising to children, but we are talking about the
    34        498 people that do feel so strongly that they want to make
    35        a formal complaint -- if it is not validated, are going to
    36        feel that their concerns are being taken into consideration
    37        -- or maybe they are complaining about -----
    38
    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It must depend on what the complaints are,
    40        must it not?
    41
    42   MR. MORRIS:  I think that is a very, very low success rate.  It
    43        is a very low validation rate -- one per cent?
    44        A.  I am afraid I cannot agree with you.  As I have said,
    45        the small number that are upheld reflects the fact that the
    46        pre-screening system, the pre-vetting system, is very
    47        effective.  It eliminates almost all the items that might
    48        have been contentious and that might have been the cause of
    49        an upheld complaint.
    50 
    51   Q.   But I put to you that a conclusion could equally be drawn 
    52        that the pre-vetting procedures may eliminate the direct 
    53        transgressions of the Code, but they are obviously not
    54        eliminating all the concerns, otherwise there would not be
    55        hardly any complaint at all.
    56
    57        The point is that four or five that are validated are ones
    58        where the Code is directly transgressed, but the 495 that
    59        are not, within a wide range of concerns which may be
    60        concerned with the spirit of the problems that the ITC is

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