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     2   Q.   -- their parents?  But the spirit behind that particular
     3        letter of the Code is that that kind of approach by
     4        children to parents is to be discouraged -- is that
     5        correct -- it is not to be encouraged?
     6        A.  Not to be encouraged in the film itself, in the
     7        commercial itself.
     8
     9   Q.   Specifically?
    10        A.  Yes.
    11
    12   Q.   But if people, for example, were worried about exhortation,
    13        they might write to the ITC and say:  "Oh, this ad is, you
    14        know, my child is always bothering me because he has seen
    15        this ad five times.  He has demanded I buy Power Rangers",
    16        or something, whatever it is that kids want these days,
    17        "and you should not be showing this ad"?
    18        A.  Yes, they might say something like that.
    19
    20   Q.   If it was not actually specifically said in the
    21        ad:  "Mummy, please buy me Power Rangers", the complaint
    22        would be unsuccessful, is that correct -- sorry, would be
    23        not validated?
    24        A.  Yes.  I think that is probably the case, though the ITC
    25        certainly looks sympathetically at any complaints, and they
    26        might decide that although the specific words do not appear
    27        in the commercial, or the specific action, nevertheless it
    28        is going rather far in that direction.  So they might
    29        advise the advertiser to tone any implication down.
    30
    31        It would not necessarily be the case that the words had to
    32        be there for the complaint to be successful.  The ITC does
    33        take, as I understand it, great note of any complaints
    34        which they consider to be valid.
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:   But -----
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    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think your point is fairly clear.  The mere
    39        fact that a particular manufacturer or sales outlet
    40        advertises strongly to children, who obviously do not have
    41        money to buy the product themselves and, therefore, must go
    42        to their parents to ask for it if they are to have it and,
    43        thereby, respond to the advertising, would not be in
    44        breach -- whether it should be or not is another matter --
    45        but would not be breach of the Code or any guidelines?
    46        A.  I think that is correct, my Lord.  Obviously, the ITC
    47        will look at individual films for individual advertisers
    48        but, as a general rule, I think the way you have described
    49        it is accurate.
    50 
    51   MR. MORRIS:  So, in fact, although the effect of an advert might 
    52        be the same as if exhortation is actually directly shown, 
    53        the ITC cannot really deal with the effects; they have to
    54        deal with what is specifically shown?
    55        A.  Well, that is correct.  The ITC cannot change human
    56        nature, and, if children are going to ask their parents for
    57        things, the ITC is powerless to alter that.
    58
    59   MR. MORRIS:   It could, for example, outlaw advertising directed
    60        to children during children's programming time, which has

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