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1 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I think that may not be right. I would not
2 want Your Lordship to assume that. I believe, we may be
3 able to get some evidence on this if it is interesting
4 enough, there are some continental countries as one might
5 expect where you can get a beer or a glass of wine. I don't
6 know if you know about that?
7 A. Yes, you can. You can in Sweden, I think.
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9 Q. Now, a question arising, Mr. Hawkes, perhaps it is not a
10 terribly important point, but do you remember... have you
11 got the yellow volume? It is a slim one - six.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is the one with your statement in,
14 Mr. Hawkes.
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16 MR. RAMPTON: Your statement I think is in the same tab as
17 Mr. Hayden's, which is tab 1. Can you turn to the second
18 page of your statement please, in tab 1 and look at
19 paragraph 5, and do you see that subject to the following
20 minor amendments you say that you endorse all comments made
21 by Michael Hayden in his statement. You came late to the
22 case because Mr. Hayden left the company?
23 A. That is right.
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25 Q. Can you turn to Mr. Hayden's statement, at the third page.
26 I am afraid I do not have bundle numbers on them - page six
27 of the bundle at the bottom and look at paragraph nine.
28 This relates to the number of new commercials, new
29 television commercials.
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31 MS. STEEL: I do not think this actually came up in
32 cross-examination?
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34 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let's see whether it does and then if----
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36 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, My Lord, it does come out of cross
37 examination. Mr. Morris, tried I thought somewhat unfairly,
38 to suggest the only area covered by Mr. Hawkes in relation
39 to amounts of advertising was percentages of advertising
40 budget as applied between adults and children. I sought to
41 intervene at that time. Your Lordship, no doubt quite
42 properly as it were, sat me down and so I come back to it.
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44 MS. STEEL: This has no bearing on the number of advertisements
45 shown.
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47 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I thought we had actually -- no, that may be
48 so, but we have actually touched on this, have we not?
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50 MR. RAMPTON: I do not remember Mr. Hawkes touching on it in his
51 evidence in chief. It arises directly out of the suggestion
52 Mr. Morris put in cross-examination.
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54 MS. STEEL: We asked Mr. Green about this area. We did not ask
55 Mr. Hawkes about it at all.
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57 MR. RAMPTON: Mr. Morris brought it out directly by proposing to
58 Mr. Hawkes quite wrongly and as I said at the time quite
59 unfairly, that this was the only measure, as it were, of
60 numbers of advertisements to which he referred in his