Day 046 - 04 Nov 94 - Page 17


     
     1   MR. MORRIS:  I just wondered what you meant by that, the phrase
     2        "We also abhor censorship", in the last paragraph?
     3        A.  It probably means special interest groups censoring
     4        what can be broadcast on television.
     5
     6   Q.   It was not only for people watching.  Does that mean you do
     7        not want your ads to be censored?
     8        A.  Yes.  I believe that the context of this, after reading
     9        it from my perspective, was censorship of programming, but
    10        we probably equally agree that there should not be
    11        censorship of advertising.
    12
    13   Q.   You said that, for your heaviest users, they might see
    14        something like three minutes of ads a week, but would
    15        actually be in the store for 40 minutes; therefore, the
    16        in-store experience would be most important influence on
    17        them.  But for the majority of your customers, who are
    18        light users, in fact the television experience might be the
    19        same or even more than the in-store experience, might it
    20        not?
    21        A.  Yes.  I do not keep numbers on other types of
    22        customers.
    23
    24   Q.   If someone goes----
    25        A.  Usually, you find that the heaviest users, heaviest
    26        watchers of television are also the heaviest users of quick
    27        service restaurants.  We do not keep any numbers that would
    28        indicate-----
    29
    30   Q.   What I am saying is that if 95 or 90 per cent of the
    31        American population visit your stores once a year or
    32        something?
    33        A.  That is correct.
    34
    35   Q.   So they would see three minutes of ads a week which is, you
    36        know -- I do not know -- 150 minutes of ads a year, and may
    37        only spend a short time in the store.  What I am saying is
    38        that, for some of your customers----
    39        A.  Yes, some our customers probably see our advertising
    40        more than they come into the store.
    41
    42   Q.   What is the reason for the limitation of the advertising of
    43        toys to children?  The networks presumably have----
    44        A.  I am not exactly sure what it is but, from my
    45        perspective, it is that they want to make sure that the
    46        goods and services of the establishment are known as well
    47        as the promotional activities of the establishment.
    48
    49   Q.   Is it because they feel it would be blatantly obvious that
    50        the child is being deceived? 
    51        A.  I do not think so.  But, again, I was not involved in 
    52        the specific ruling as to the reasons why; it would only be 
    53        speculation on my part.
    54
    55   MS. STEEL:  Could I just ask: how long, in general, are
    56        promotional advertisements run for?
    57        A.  Usually, for the length of the promotion or for the
    58        first three-quarters of a promotion.
    59
    60   Q.   So is there a set length of time for a promotion, like a

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