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     1        I have been associated with or my department has been
     2        associated with, that I can think of, and nothing comes to
     3        mind.
     4
     5   Q.   If you were doing it from the heart, for reasons of the
     6        heart, why have the name attached at all?
     7        A.  I do not think they are incongruous.  I think, again,
     8        as people, as human beings as well as part of the
     9        community, whether it is a business community or whether it
    10        is the community at large, people like to try to do the
    11        right things.  McDonald's, as a person, as a persona, likes
    12        to do the right things as well.  There is a considerable
    13        amount of activity that we do; in fact, in my humble
    14        opinion, a significant amount of activity that McDonald's
    15        does that other people in a similar situation, whether in
    16        business or not, do not do.  The reason we do it is that
    17        I think we honestly believe in it.
    18
    19   Q.   You know that it gets you free publicity?
    20        A.  Certainly, there is publicity that is associated with
    21        it, in many cases; in some cases not.
    22
    23   MR. MORRIS:  When people, say, make a gift and get publicity,
    24        does it come out of their advertising budget?
    25        A.  I am not sure I follow that.
    26
    27   MR. MORRIS:   I will change the question.  Say Mr. Golin-----
    28
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Pause there.  You could put it this way: if
    30        hamburgers were provided to those in need, would that come
    31        out -- that is the sort of thing you mean, is it -- would
    32        that come out of the advertising or promotion budget? Is
    33        that what you mean?
    34
    35   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  That kind of thing.
    36
    37   THE WITNESS:   No.  That does not come out of the advertising
    38        and promotion budget.  That comes out of the bottom line or
    39        the profits of that particular store, because that
    40        particular operator wanted to do it.
    41
    42   MR. MORRIS:   The public relations firm that may be dreaming up
    43        various statistical or stunts, or whatever, are they paid
    44        out of your department?
    45        A.  Yes.  Well, actually, they used to be paid out of the
    46        Marketing department, but they no longer are.  They are
    47        paid out of the Communications department.  But their
    48        overall fee is paid for either by the company or by a
    49        co-operative of stores that band together.
    50 
    51   Q.   So they are areas of promotion which are not covered by 
    52        your specific department? 
    53        A.  Public relations is not covered by my specific
    54        department.
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Well, that has reminded me of a question
    57        I wanted to ask:  whether public relations came within the
    58        five or six per cent?
    59        A.  Yes.  On a local----
    60

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