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     1        neighbourhood, who will go to visits and be Ronald on an
     2        occasional basis.
     3
     4   Q.   Are there some Ronalds that particularly stay a long time?
     5        Is there sort of like a hierarchy:  they go to more
     6        important events or they go onto TV ads, if they work
     7        themselves up?
     8        A.  No, not usually, although the current ronald mcdonald
     9        in the United States was, in fact, a local ronald mcdonald
    10        for one of the markets before he became the actor in the
    11        commercials.  But there really is not a hierarchy, but they
    12        tend to stay a long time; it seems to be quite a rewarding
    13        activity for those people.
    14
    15   Q.   I do not know if it is fact, but I heard that there is some
    16        kind of national TV programme -- or there has been in the
    17        past -- devoted to ronald mcdonald, is that correct, not
    18        just an advert, an actual programme; or is that just what
    19        we saw before, the Family Theatre type of thing?
    20        A.  Yes.  Probably, you are thinking of the Family
    21        Theatre.  I seem to remember, way long ago, back before
    22        I even came to McDonald's, because I remember a video clip
    23        of Ronald reading the funny papers on television.  But that
    24        was way long gone and my memory is quite weak on it.  But,
    25        yes, he may have had a programme.
    26
    27   Q.   If somebody appears on a programme like that, could that be
    28        someone who just walked in off the street as an actor, or
    29        would that be someone that really knows the background?
    30        A.  No.  Obviously, if you are going to be a Ronald
    31        McDonald, since he is a bit of a trademark for McDonald's,
    32        you have to go through some training and be hired by the
    33        local co-op or the local advertising agency.
    34
    35   Q.   The ones we saw appearing on national ads, would they have
    36        to-----
    37        A.  That is always one person.
    38
    39   Q.   That is always one person, the same person?
    40        A.  Yes.  The national advertising is done by a single
    41        individual.  What I am talking about in ronald mcdonald,
    42        are those that actually go out and do the store visits.
    43        Obviously, one person could not do them around the country,
    44        so we hire different individuals in the different
    45        marketplaces.
    46
    47   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We will break off there.  What I would like
    48        you to do, Mr. Morris, is concentrate on the points you are
    49        trying to make, because it is not really a function of this
    50        trial just to find out as much information as one can about 
    51        the way McDonald's works.  I have to trust you to not do 
    52        that and to try to aim at particular points you want to 
    53        make, particularly where you think any of Mr. Green's
    54        evidence may be contrary to what you expect Miss Dibb or
    55        Gallatley to say in due course.
    56
    57   MR. MORRIS:  Could I spend a couple of minutes to finish off
    58        this point, to get it out of the way?
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.

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