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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It might be, from the term which you have
     3        given to it, a small family concern with one outlet?
     4        A.  Yes.
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     6   Q.   Or two outlets in a particular locality; that is what you
     7        mean, is it?
     8        A.  Yes, that is correct.  Usually, they are owned by a
     9        single person and they have one or two or three outlets.
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    11   MS. STEEL:  You think it means that, rather than someone's
    12        mother and father, the meals provided at home?
    13        A.  No.  Mom and pop's, again, is a phrase used in the
    14        United States to indicate a restaurant or a food chain that
    15        only has a very few number of outlets.
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    17   MS. STEEL:   Right.  Okay.
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    19   MR. MORRIS:  So if you disagree with that as a marketing
    20        strategy, who makes the decisions in McDonald's
    21        Corporation?  Does the board which that represents,
    22        presumably, or do you make the decision?
    23        A.  Decision as to what?
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    25   Q.   Marketing strategy.
    26        A.  Most of the decisions for marketing strategy are made
    27        by people in my department.
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    29   Q.   Yes.  I am talking about -- you said that you did not agree
    30        with that as a marketing strategy.  So do you get
    31        instructions from the board, or do you just make all your
    32        own decisions as regards McDonald's international marketing
    33        strategy?
    34        A.  Well, I make decisions primarily about the United
    35        States, and I make decisions as to the advertising that we
    36        do in the United States.
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    38   Q.   You must have some guidance, must you not?
    39        A.  Certainly, over a long period of time since I have been
    40        with the company, I have had guidance from my superior, who
    41        is the Executive Vice President of Marketing, and others.
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    43   Q.   So would you say, then -- this would be guidance from the
    44        highest level, presumably, if it is in the annual report --
    45        that you may or may not agree with it?  That is no problem,
    46        is it?
    47        A.  I am not sure that my disagreement with this from a
    48        marketing perspective is incongruous with what this says.
    49        My agreement or my statement is: how do we market, what is
    50        the strategy that we market to in the United States?  We do 
    51        not market to every single kind of food establishment. 
    52        That is not what I would consider our competition.  The 
    53        strategy that we develop in our advertising goes against a
    54        very specific target, as opposed to all food.
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    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If you have an ad with premiums for children
    57        which they could collect a set of over a period of four
    58        weeks, does that not go to hoping that they might choose to
    59        have a McDonald's rather than stay in and get the toy?
    60        A.  Well, certainly, that may happen, but in the

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