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1 that is not going to be pursued, you are content to rely on
2 other witnesses so far as other factors are concerned,
3 although Mr. Bateman does touch on other factors.
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5 MR. RAMPTON: I know he does, but I am content to leave it to
6 others. If it is simply a question of trees, then I do not
7 need Mr. Bateman. If it is a question of whether the paper
8 making process adverse environmental effects, then I do
9 need Mr. Bateman, but I only propose to call him if the
10 Defendants, by some means or another, they having said that
11 they have abandoned Miss Carroll, are themselves proposing
12 to lead any evidence.
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14 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Thank you. What I would like is anything
15 that you wish to say at this stage on, firstly, the
16 question of Miss Carroll and Mr. Bateman; secondly, as to
17 order of advertising witnesses and when they may be taken;
18 thirdly, the question of the length of any break between
19 such advertising witnesses as we can call at this stage and
20 going on to the question of amendment, and recycling and
21 waste.
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23 MS. STEEL: As far as-----
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25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Miss Carroll and Mr. Bateman, first of all.
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27 MS. STEEL: We would like to get advice, really. We have not
28 really had the chance to take advice.
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I would like you to get it as soon as you
31 can, simply because it is not just a question of whether
32 Mr. Rampton needs to call Mr. Bateman. Indeed, if you were
33 left in any doubt about that, it might be that he would
34 just call him, but if there is no need to call Mr. Bateman,
35 we have two days in the schedule which we can use for
36 something else. So it has that importance to know as soon
37 as possible.
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39 MS. STEEL: We will try to sort it out in the next couple of
40 days.
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42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I would like you to let me know by the end of
43 this week, really, or the very beginning of next week.
44 What you, first of all, have to decide is whether you are
45 actually calling evidence, putting a positive case in the
46 sense of calling evidence, on the pulp processing side,
47 chlorine, and matters of that kind.
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49 Then the question of order of witnesses.
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51 MS. STEEL: We have spoken to Juliette Gallatley and Sue Dibb.
52 Fortunately, we had left Tuesday free, because we thought
53 there was a chance that this could over run, so we asked
54 them-----
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56 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can you keep your voice up?
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58 MS. STEEL: We asked Juliette Gallatley to come on Wednesday
59 morning, and then we were going to start Sue Dibb on
60 Wednesday afternoon and carry on for however long it took,
