Day 041 - 28 Oct 94 - Page 24


     
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     2   Q.   Would it be nearer what we saw in colour than what we could
     3        see in black and white of some other film which had been on
     4        the tape, presumably?  Did you see, when Mr. Hill turned
     5        off yours, there was something going on in the background?
     6        A.  Yes.
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     8   Q.   It would be better quality than that, would it, a copy?
     9        A.  Oh, the copy would, yes.
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    11   Q.   Much nearer to what we saw of your colour ads?
    12        A.  Yes.
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    14   Q.   It is a London advertising agency?
    15        A.  Yes, it is.
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    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That may be a way forward, Mr. Rampton.
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    19   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes.  We could do a trial run and see what the
    20        quality was.  Mr. Hawkes ----
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    22   MR. MORRIS:  I am a bit concerned about -- I know that we do not
    23        want to have legal argument now about discovery -- but I am
    24        very concerned about the implication that the Plaintiffs
    25        have the right to choose which Defendant to serve which
    26        documents on that are relevant.
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    28        My understanding is that both Defendants have an equal
    29        right to see and have all relevant documents that the
    30        Plaintiffs wish to put before the court or that exist.  The
    31        problem is not just having the documents, but having the
    32        confidence, if I have not been served a document, that
    33        I know, for example, if I get a document served on me, do
    34        I have to check with Helen that she has got exactly the
    35        same document?  It is ridiculous.  Obviously, it is a
    36        completely administrative nightmare if we do not have the
    37        same documents each.
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    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just pause for a moment, because if we go
    40        back to what the strict position is, what the strict
    41        entitlement is, subject to any order which Mr. Justice
    42        Drake may have made -- and I am not familiar with that;
    43        I have seen mention of it somewhere and it has been
    44        mentioned in court to me somewhere, but I am not
    45        particularly acquainted with that -- I would have to
    46        refresh my memory (with Mr. Rampton's help no doubt) of
    47        what your strict entitlement is.  But it might be found
    48        that your strict entitlement is not to be served with
    49        copies, but to be given sight of the original and the
    50        entitlement to copy it yourself, if you choose.  I cannot 
    51        remember whether that is accurately what the position is. 
    52        I would have to look it up again. 
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    54        So, all I am asking is, be wary of going back to strict
    55        entitlement or you may find you are not entitled to be
    56        given a copy of anything, subject to Mr. Justice Drake's
    57        order.  What I am trying to do is not get bogged down in
    58        strict legal rights, but just to come to a solution which
    59        enables this case to move forward without any prejudice to
    60        either side.

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