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     1        fats.
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If one sees on a label "fat" and then a
     4        quantity, and underneath of which saturated fat and then a
     5        quantity, the trans fatty acids are not in the saturated
     6        fat?
     7        A.  That is correct, your Lordship.  There has been -- the
     8        health professionals have for a long time wanted the
     9        government to make it clear that the trans fatty acids
    10        should be labelled as well.  Part of the reason for this
    11        is that there are now firms which are producing vegetable
    12        fats for cooking which are hard fats, and they are
    13        produced by hydrogenation.  So they trying to make out a
    14        case that these are vegetable fats, so they must be good
    15        for.  But because they have destroyed all the nutritional
    16        value of the vegetable fat by hydrogenating it, they
    17        become very equivalent to the sort of saturated fats that
    18        we get in large quantities from beef animals.
    19
    20   MS. STEEL:   Hydrogenated fats are the solid ones?
    21        A.  The saturated fats are solid.  When you hydrogenate
    22        polyunsaturated fats, you end up with solid fats as well.
    23        You do, of course, have partially hydrogenated fats which
    24        are halfway houses depending on the requirement of the
    25        industry for solidity or softness.
    26
    27   Q.   The breakdown of the fatty acids in the Big Mac, you
    28        mentioned in your statement that the beefburger is the
    29        opposite of the recommendations made by the Chief Medical
    30        Officer.  Could you just explain a bit more about that?
    31        A.  Well, if one looks at the proportion of fat (and these
    32        are McDonald's own up-to-date data) that 48.5 per cent of
    33        the energy is coming from the total fat; whereas the
    34        recommendations are for us to get down to 30 per cent of
    35        the energy, with intermediate of 35 per cent and saturated
    36        fats of 23 per cent of the energy, the recommendation of
    37        the World Health Organisation is between 0 to 10 per cent
    38        of the energy.
    39
    40        So all of these figures for both total fats, saturated
    41        fat, are considerably above the recommendations for the
    42        prevention of the diseases that we are concerned about.
    43
    44        The other side of the coin which is also interesting is
    45        that if one looks at the n-3 fatty acids, that they are
    46        very poor providers -- these meals are very poor providers
    47        of the n-3 fatty acids which we know to be protective.  So
    48        we have, on the one hand, a high proportion of the types
    49        of fats and fatty acids that people are recommending
    50        should be reduced and, on the other hand, we have very low 
    51        proportions of the types of fats and fatty acids that 
    52        people are recommending should be increased. 
    53
    54        That is why I say it is, in a sense, the converse of what
    55        is being recommended.  In the framework of my first
    56        statement about the intrusions of such concepts, if you
    57        like, into developing, and other countries where these
    58        diseases are not a problem -- if you were to, say, take
    59        the big Mac and compare it with the Japanese meal of tuna
    60        fish and prawns and replace the tuna fish and prawns by

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