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The United States of FDR was basically fascist.

Posted by: DonS ( USA ) on October 27, 1999 at 00:58:29:

In Reply to: Generalise, generalise, generalise find a book and get enlightened, enlightened, enlightened. posted by Lark on October 26, 1999 at 16:20:23:

: In what way does it work? The facist axis lost the war, a war fought against the supposedly inferior democracies, this stands as an example of the complete unworkability of facism, by their own criteria, that is 'national victory' they have failed. Modern facism is actually liberalised facism because they seek an international consensus in racist or sectarian politics rather than the militant position of national war, victory and imperial dominance.
The United States of FDR was basically fascist. As are the modern European democratic-socialist states.

: : It is fitting that he ended his life after finding "political asylum" in East Germany.
: And by this you mean?
I mean that East Germany and the rest of the communist block were horrid places which no sane person would seek political asylum in.

Follow Ups:

Silly FDR... Who needed an end to the great depression, anyway? Aleph October 31 1999 (1)
- FDR made the great depression longer DonS USA November 03 1999 (0)
Where did you read this? Lark October 28 1999 (9)
- The above is simply propaganda. DonS USA October 28 1999 (8)
  - Hitler was helped into office by wealthy cartels Lark October 29 1999 (7)
    - He did not leave to a better society--he left to a pathetic one. DonS USA October 31 1999 (6)
      - Fascism is NOT an economical system, it is a political one under the economic system of capitalism Kweassa the Great March November 03 1999 (0)
      - you can talk about civil war some of us live it. Lark November 01 1999 (4)
        
        I'm sorry if I caused you distress DonS USA November 03 1999 (0)
        
        The only thing he knows about me is my beliefs DonS USA November 01 1999 (2)
        
        I was anticipating what kind of action you would take when I made that assertion lark November 03 1999 (1)
        
        you are confirming my *dogma* that commies are bloody butchers. DonS USA November 05 1999 (0)
Um, A little clarification if you don't mind? Kweassa the Great March October 28 1999 (11)
- Fascism is the system where the government controls industry. DonS USA October 28 1999 (10)
  - You're kidding, right? Kweassa the Great March October 28 1999 (7)
    - Socialists are not fascists. DonS USA October 29 1999 (5)
      - Oh, I see Kweassa the Great March October 31 1999 (4)
        
        To date, the US is more fascist than capitalist. DonS USA November 03 1999 (0)
        
        Fascism is not the *only* system that allows government control over industry DonS USA November 03 1999 (2)
        
        Here's the irony Kweassa the Great March November 05 1999 (1)
        
        The class-exploitation part is political. DonS USA November 15 1999 (0)
    - Allow me to slip a knife in, Kweassa MDG USA October 29 1999 (0)
  - East germany Nikhil Jaikumar DSA MA, USA October 28 1999 (1)
    - You think most people would want to live someplace with a *wall* to keep them in? Don USA October 28 1999 (0)