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Posted by: Gee ( si ) on October 08, 1999 at 12:09:01:

In Reply to: Comments on the above posts posted by Stoller on October 08, 1999 at 10:37:16:

: When Gee says 'It strikes many as more of a result of forcing 2000 individuals together in a "community" with which their relationship is neither revocable nor provisional,' he demonstrates his inveterate commitment to unsocialism.
Snipping the amatuer psychoanalysis which followed, this is an interesting point.
Would you consider relations between poeple to be healthier and happier if the individuals were unable to revoke the relationship, and unable to place for themselves provisions or standards upon the terms of the relationship. Were infact powerless as to whom they related to and in which way - kept forever in the state of the newborn or the slave.
I acknowledge, pre-emptively, that by lumping billions of individuals into 2 convenient classes one can describe the 'proleteriat' as being chained to the 'capitalist class' or whatever (which, ironically would have you agreeing with me that irrevocable and unprovisional relations are an evil), but this doesnt provide a useful framework in analysing human interaction between individuals.

Follow Ups:

'Revoking the relationship' Barry Stoller October 10 1999 (0)
'Revoking the relationship' Barry Stoller October 10 1999 (19)
- beam me into the next village Gee si October 11 1999 (18)
  - '70+%'?---Let's see it, pal. Barry Stoller October 12 1999 (17)
    - ok Gee si October 12 1999 (16)
      - Read other post first Stoller October 13 1999 (0)
      - More Critical 'Independant' Thinking I Presume Barry Stoller October 13 1999 (14)
        
        and you use it to counter! Gee si October 13 1999 (13)
        
        Memory problem? Stoller October 13 1999 (11)
        
        it shows conflicting data exists. Gee si October 13 1999 (10)
        
        this means that both of your positions are purely subjective. septimus Aus. October 14 1999 (6)
        
        Wrong! Stoller October 15 1999 (4)
        
        No, he was right Gee si October 15 1999 (3)
        
        Based on what? Stoller October 15 1999 (2)
        
        I'd like to know, too Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA October 16 1999 (1)
        
        too Gee si October 18 1999 (0)
        
        Thankyou - you got it Gee si October 14 1999 (0)
        
        The only 'conflict' is your unwillingness to admit that you're wrong Stoller October 14 1999 (2)
        
        everest Gee si October 14 1999 (1)
        
        Everest is not a citation Stoller October 15 1999 (0)
        
        Try and guess why Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA October 13 1999 (0)
'Revoking the relationship' Barry Stoller October 10 1999 (19)
- beam me into the next village Gee si October 11 1999 (18)
  - '70+%'?---Let's see it, pal. Barry Stoller October 12 1999 (17)
    - ok Gee si October 12 1999 (16)
      - Read other post first Stoller October 13 1999 (0)
      - More Critical 'Independant' Thinking I Presume Barry Stoller October 13 1999 (14)
        
        and you use it to counter! Gee si October 13 1999 (13)
        
        Memory problem? Stoller October 13 1999 (11)
        
        it shows conflicting data exists. Gee si October 13 1999 (10)
        
        this means that both of your positions are purely subjective. septimus Aus. October 14 1999 (6)
        
        Wrong! Stoller October 15 1999 (4)
        
        No, he was right Gee si October 15 1999 (3)
        
        Based on what? Stoller October 15 1999 (2)
        
        I'd like to know, too Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA October 16 1999 (1)
        
        too Gee si October 18 1999 (0)
        
        Thankyou - you got it Gee si October 14 1999 (0)
        
        The only 'conflict' is your unwillingness to admit that you're wrong Stoller October 14 1999 (2)
        
        everest Gee si October 14 1999 (1)
        
        Everest is not a citation Stoller October 15 1999 (0)
        
        Try and guess why Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA October 13 1999 (0)
another comment Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA October 08 1999 (5)
- Is M-C-M' sufficient? Chuck Virginia October 10 1999 (4)
  - Watch the C Stoller October 11 1999 (3)
    - merchants' capital Chuck Virginia October 13 1999 (2)
      - My understanding Barry Stoller October 14 1999 (1)
        
        Thanks again Barry Chuck Virginia October 17 1999 (0)