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Posted by: Gee on February 24, 1999 at 16:24:03:

In Reply to: Statism is what saves your system from its abolition. posted by Lark on February 24, 1999 at 15:17:25:

: Yes but choice is the smoke screen under which a class struggle is carried out.

no evidence

: For instance the right to organise as producers EG unions is nothing if you dont have the right to organise as consumers

no one stops this except the unwillingess of cosnumers to lump together.

: Right you believe that "private property" could be annexed from the present capitalist order, I think that's shit.

Clearly you do have that opinion.

: I mean I could understand Adam Smith and co. in the pre-capitalist fuedal age thinking these things up but please you've seen the reality of the matter.

Youve not heard of Hayek, Friedman etc? Not 18th century types.

: However you still see capitalism as the way to go, it isnt, for you to be wealthy, and benefit from everything that wealth brings, does someone have to live in poverty stricken misery?

Certainly not, thats thw point of it. lets not go over zero sum again

: Now I dont find that ethically or morally correct but I know appeals like that have absolutely no interest to you

Unless you can base such in reality based philosophy of the nature of man.

: well, logically the greatest threat to private property comes from such a system the have nots are going to criminally exact revenge upon the haves.

Revenge? Sounds more like plain envy, jealousy and frustration. Haves are becoming more and more prevalent - unless a have not is relative, then in time presumable have-nots will be poeple with *only* a house, food and a car. Wealth increases, obsreve average homes 50 yrs ago to now.

: Yes but you vote republican and vote for whatever extremist left faction is there.

I vote republican! hehe!


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