- Capitalism and Alternatives -

Care to tell that to George Washington?

In Reply to: Slowly boiling frogs posted by MDG on February 29, 19100 at 13:39:42:

: Keep in mind that insurrection=violence and you'll understand why many people, especially people with children, want nothing to do with it.

By that logic, we'd all still be serfs giving half our labor-power to the feudal lords who owned us (instead of fighting for the revolutions that brought the bourgeoisie and their liberalism into power).

In short: democracy came into the world by ANYTHING but democratic means.

Taking your support for liberalism as a given, what you're saying is that the bourgeois revolution was worth fighting for but the proletarian revolution isn't.

Speaking of family life and feudalism, smart guy, ever heard of the 'right to the first night'?

Follow Ups:

• You see this nostalgic nonsense is what I'm talking about. Lark March 01 19100 (0)
• Always the snide one, aren't you? MDG March 01 19100 (10)
  • If I bought the next round of drinks and laughed at your jokes, would you ditch your class orienation and become a Marxist? Stoller March 01 19100 (9)
    • Depends on how drunk you got me. MDG March 01 19100 (8)
      • And a note on the use of force. MDG March 01 19100 (7)
        • I couldn't buy enough drinks and laugh at enough jokes to get the middle class to support communism; only class crisis will do that Barry Stoller March 02 19100 (6)
          • That's that, then. MDG March 02 19100 (5)
            • I've run out of drinks, you've run out of jokes and we've made no progress---so much for reforming each other Barry Stoller March 03 19100 (4)
              • Fortunately, I always keep a bottle under the driver's seat, so here's one for the road. MDG March 03 19100 (3)
                • Sorry, can't shut me up after I've had a few Barry Stoller March 03 19100 (2)
                  • Dodge this! *tosses empty beer bottle* MDG March 04 19100 (1)
                    • Feeling a little hostile? Stoller March 04 19100 (0)