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Marx really does elevate historic mechanism or dialectics above freedom

Posted by: Lark on February 16, 19100 at 14:38:35:

In Reply to: reply posted by Piper on February 16, 19100 at 10:14:02:

: : : Piper: Marx thought of the revolution as being brought to the people rather than being achieved by the people. That doesn't sound very democratic to me.

: : He wrote the preamble to the international in which he asserted that self-liberation was the only course of action for the proletariat.

: Piper: Marx thought that freedom would be brought to the worker by history. He treated freedom merely as a final end, not a force in history. Workers don't achieve liberation, it is brought to them by the forces of history.

: Marx's failure to see freedom as an end in itself, meant that
: despotism could be erected in his nameas a necessary force to bring freedome to the workers.

Good point, I'd not thought about it that way previously but Marx really does elevate historic mechanism or dialectics above freedom, freedom is like some kind of nice coincedence really.



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