: The act of homosexuality is intrinsically disgusting to the average
: man, not because of some latent fear of rape or any other psychobabble
: explanation. It is because of an innate desire to procreate which is
: given to us by God or instilled through eons of evolution.Erm, I'm not queer, and I have no revulsion towards homosexuality whatsoever. Also, define average man.
: Certain men
: act out their disgust. Others practice civility. Homosexuals have the
: right to live without fear of abuse but have no right to be accepted as
: normal. They are not normal. They are sexually aberrant humans.
Normal is a fine nineteenth century word, comes from mathematics tha knowest. Its basic meaning is an average, that which most folk do, but by careful use, and continually so, you can twist it to mean 'proper' 'correct', 'acceptable'- i.e. to hierarchise to suggest that normality is superior to difference. We can make no such hierarchisation- everything a human can do, is natural for humans to do, this includes dropping nuclear bombs on one another, or it includes buggery.
: Biblically, to have homosexual tendencies is no sin. To act on them is.
: Obviously it is intolerant to beat up gays. That fits in with the
: classic definition of the word intolerance. No sincere Christian does
: this. I suppose plenty of pretenders have done this in the name of
: Christ. Let's don't characterize sincere Christians as gay bashers.
No, but lets cataegorise them as upholders of an ideological hierarchisation of activity, with vague appeals to a metanarrative based on life in ancient palestine.
: To work to produce an environment where homosexuality is considered
: normal, acceptable behavior is to work against natural law and
: bibilical law. This is the objective of the gay rights movement.
Since you live in a secular stat, dear heart, that second point is utterly irrelvent, the former point is scientifically unsound, since 'natural law' of human behaviour is notoriously hard to proove- witness teh valporization of homosexual relations in hellenic Greece- the bastion and birthplace of western civilisation considered specific forms of homosexual relations good, in fcat it was sometimes difficult for men to obtain public office unless they had a boy of their own. Literally, the Greek Bugger up natural Law.
: Gays
: have had rights that protect them against violence, oppression, and
: discrimination for quite some time. But these things are not the bottom
: line for many gays.
I don't belive they are protected from being sacked for their sexuality, and in some states i hear tell buggery is still illegal (its only barely legal here- legal, unless oyu get caught, etc.).
: You see, if one feels compelled to psychoanalyze
: things, a good case can be made for the dysfunction of homosexuals. I
: personally believe that gays seek self-affirmation from society for
: their behavior because they know, in their hearts, they desire more
: than their own resigned acceptance of their condition. If we say it's
: OK to be gay, maybe then they can feel better about who they are.
I think its more a case of asserting and demanding recognition, not wanting 'tolerance' I despise tolerance, it implies that the tolerator has some right to decide whther to tolerate or not, the aim is to smash teh hierarchisation that effectively excludes homosecxuality from mainstream discourses- Evry LGB campign round here is met with the 'I don't want them ramming their sexuality down my throat' line, I don't mind, so long as they are gay in private, and yet they have hetersexuality rammed down their throats constantly.
: Some
: of the support for the flaming, in your face, displays come
: from gays who would never consider doing this kind of thing themselves
: but recognize the impact that the gay activists have had on public
: opinion. Although somewhat polarizing, the gay rights parades serve to
: desensitize the public to these images which will, in turn, cause more
: and more people to accept homosexuality as a viable lifestyle choice.
Over here we have 'Clause 28' which forbids teachers and local authorities from 'promoting homosexuality as a valid alternative life style' (though strangely it doesn't ban the opposite, which allowed the venemous and evil Dr. Docherty to come to my old school and tell us that gays are sick and need treatment). Now, you might think that sounds OK- but what happens if a child is undergoing confusion, or one child 'calls' another a 'poof'?- how can you respond to that 'intolerant' and discriminatory behaviour, as a teacher, without saying homosexuality is acceptable?
: But the best choice would be to
: recognize and confront the issue and take whatever steps you can to
: curb this abnormal activity and remove the temptation.
Being abnormal is of course, so heinous.
: I'm one step away from saying I have no judgment of homosexuality as
: long as it is done in private. I can't take that last step because I
: really believe being homosexual (practicing) stands as an impediment
: happiness. This viewpoint is founded on the practicle experience
: mentioned before of dealing first hand with so many men who were so
: obviously hurting. I'd like them not to hurt but it takes a sincere
: desire to address what is actually wrong, not a pat on the head and an
: affirmation that we love them no matter who they are. It may be true
: that we love them but that doesn't make them normal, which in the long
: run is how they wish to feel. I know the obvious reply to this is that
: if society didn't put them in that defensive position they might be
: happier. I find that argument circular. I woud also argue that any form
: of aberrant behavior could be justified by that argument if valid.
That is correct, tehre is no such thing as right or wrong, only what we decide is right or wrong, Iwas tuaght 'a sin is something which hurts someone else,a nd therefore hurts God' queers are hiurting no-one. If they are fuycked up its because of a long standing battering by a culture that tells them that they are abhorrent, and sinful, and deviant, and a struggle to deny what they are, because they don't want to be one of those evil poofs. Effectively, your spiel puts you into complicity with Torture stuey.
But I love you anyway.
None.
