: Sorry Dtg. Maybe we didnt illustrate the problem thoroughly. No one is blaming the congregation. We are blaming the men and women who have stood before us for 2000 years saying God requires our money. We are blaming the people who commisioned the crusades. We are blaming the people who have slaughterd countless innocents worldwide and said it was Gods will.Ah yes, but your not being anti-clerical Mr. Truth, dont try for a minute to hide behind something as sound as all that, Your being Anti-catholic and I'd add that the CHURCH includes the congergation, insult to one is an insult to all.
If you'd like Protestant transgressions, we could start with murdering Guy Fawkes or the Dissenters, the crimes carried out during the reformation on Catholics, Cromwells Naziesc purging of Ireland, the modern day brethern in the KKK or UFF that see fit to carry out the word of God in Murdering Catholics.
: I have a stong and heartfelt beleif in the right to worship as you wish providing you dont propose to speak for my money or judge or do violence to another.
Glad to hear it but to suggest this isnt a Catholic virtue/principal and is a Protestant one isnt just sectarian but a gross, gross generalisation.
: Honestly-can you say the papacy has lived up to this simple rule of gold?
Did Cromwell with "TO HELL OR CONNAUGHT", do the White Knights of the KKK carry out that belief in blowing up Black Churches and Catholic places of worship? Does the Christian Identity Church do this with its association of Hitler with a model Christian? Did David Korsch do this by brutalising women, children and his congergation and refusing to negotiate with the US government resulting in their deaths?
: I too have strong personal beliefs about my soul and what occurs when my body perishes. I will never kill someone for not agreeing with that belief. Nor would I tell others they must believe the same lest they perish in a fiery pit. Lastly I would not be vain enough to ask for their money.
Jesus, your well on your way to being a Catholic man, maybe your working from a base of complete ignorance and prejudice about the Catholic Church.
: Your assertion of our ignorance is, I'm sure, a knee jerk reaction to what you believed a personal attack. I'll forgive it. Please find your peace wherever you can but dont deny the TRUTH of the injustice that has been visited upon my ancestors.
Your ANCESTORS I thought your beef was with the Crusades etc. you a Muslim then? I've detailed the sins of your Fathers mister and their are more, I think you'll find that the people who attack institutes and try to remedy the problem by setting up new one just follow in the foot steps of the former "sinners".
I do believe you ignorant because to hear you speak you'd think the Church is still the fuedal power it once was and that the poor hapless catholics are forced at the barrel of a threat of damnation to hand over cash. Since Vatican Two we run the show, the congregation so an insult to the church is an insult to us.
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McSpotlight: This site ain't the place for religious wars; I'm allowing these messages through as I haven't already issued a strong warning, but if people want to engage in their own private jihads over this, there are plenty of better places on the net to do so. Sorry if this seems harsh and arbitrary, but it's not a productive debate as far as we're concerned.
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